The way I feel about Saw movies, being so sick and depraved, it almost makes wish for censorship at times.
Anyone who would watch these type of sadist gore films and seriously enjoys them has no business with having guns or being around children. Sorry Not Sorry!
Terrifier stinks. None of the characters are killed off in any creative or interesting ways, it's just tons of blood and limbs being chopped off. It's actually very unimaginative and there's certainly nothing to the movie that's even remotely notable outside of the gore. Just a movie for people who are really in to live leak.
Agree about The Witch. It's very weird that people would think that this is a pro feminist movie. Sure, she's "liberated" from her male dominated family, but that's clearly bad as shown by the reasons you listed in the article. It's one of the better modern horror movies.
Also as a follow up to a question from your mailbag about horror remakes better than the original, I can think of 3 other than The Thing. Cronenberg's The Fly, the 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and the 1988 The Blob.
Sorry. I infinitely prefer the original THING. The John Carpenter remake was good and had the advantage of amazing practical effects, an Ennio Morricone soundtrack, and Kurt Russell. But the science versus military dimension was completely lacking and I appreciated the aspect of the movie where everyone works together to defeat the monster rather than the complete opposite of the remake. The remake of The Blob? Too many left-wing conspiracy elements for my taste. And there was no theme song written by Burt Bacharach! I'm divided on INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS. It helped the remake had a cameo of Kevin McCarthy . . .
The gore in Terrifier is so over the top that Art's actor said in an interview that he almost threw up during a scene. I would argue that the artistic merit of the film is that almost all the effects in the film are practical. Anyone can animate a bunch of gore with CGI; it takes real dedication to your craft to build and destroy all those dummies and animatronics.
I respectfully disagree. It's getting more popular because it's the only thing that gets young people into the theater, and also comfortable, bored people like horror. It's left-coded in that people who have no real idea about life substitute it by watching "life" on screen.
Once you have kids and have lived a life past say 35 or 40, horror movies are stupid. By then, you should have experienced horror in real life and don't need cinematography as a facsimile. I don't mean stabbings and deaths in front of you. I'm talking about the normal mortal fear that comes from having kids, friends & family, financial issues, and medical issues. Stuff that doesn't last 2 hours and you can't eat popcorn during it.
I totally disagree. I've been to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and have seen my fair share of blood and gore. I'm over the age of 40. I have a family. And yet we all get a kick out of horror movies because they are fun and escapist fare. Every Saturday we gather around the television and watch SVENGOOLIE. Are some horror movies stupid? Sure. PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE would be the one every one points to. Yet THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, Val Lewton's THE CAT PEOPLE, Boris Karloff and Henry Daniell in THE BODY SNATCHER, THE BIRDS, CARNIVAL OF SOULS, THE HAUNTING, THE INNOCENTS (with Deborah Kerr), ROSEMARY'S BABY, THE EXORCIST, THE SIXTH SENSE, and THE OTHERS? All excellent movies. I would have included the latest iteration of NOSFERATU but a disgusting and needless inclusion of necrophilia in that otherwise excellent movie ruined the rest of the film for me. THE LAST VOYAGE OF THE DEMETER was also quite good although I don't believe it will ever be considered a "classic." As for the family thing? If you're a father then THE SHINING, A QUIET PLACE, and any of the WOLF MAN movies certainly explore "father issues." The first one with Lon Chaney, Junior was well-cast as the celebrated horror actor certainly had genuine father issues. The second one with Benecio Del Toro and his father, Anthony Perkins, is certainly the most bizarre iteration. The latest one with Christopher Abbott, who is also a father - probably explores the "fatherhood" aspect more deeply than the first two combined. No. Not at all "stupid."
Terrifier is anti Christian in imagery and intent even if not through it's plot. It should be censored, it should be rated X but it got around that by skipping the rating process everyone else has to go through. We should kill the director to round out my thoughts.
feminists watching the opening scene of The Witch where a hideous crone murders an infant and grinds it up in a giant mortar and pestle: "wow she's just like me"
I love horror movies and always have since I can remember. My favorite is the subgenre of "Monster Movies." Whereas a PSYCHO or even a WICKER MAN may be plausible, the fun for me was always watching The Golem, The Phantom of the Opera, Mister Hyde, Count Dracula, The Frankenstein Monster, The Mummy (both Kharis and Im Ho Tep), Larry Talbot's Wolf-Man, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, and other creatures - witches, ghouls, goblins, zombies, gremlins, ogres, medusas, killer robots, and aliens from outer space - terrorize the screen. I preferred The Outer Limits to The Twilight Zone because there was always a monster guaranteed on The Outer Limits. I loved the old television program Kolchak: The Night Stalker, because the protagonist was a sensible level-headed journeyman reporter (not a "journalist" from Columbia!) who encountered a different monster every week. The 1970s were a high point. In what other decade would you see a television movie about a sentient bulldozer systematically killing construction workers (KILLDOZER) or a Zuni fetish doll terrorizing a woman in her apartment (TRILOGY OF TERROR)?
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD was the game-changer. That was the one where the forces of law enforcement, the church, the military, or any other representative of civilization were not going to save the day. There's no cavalry riding in at the end. Nihilism reigned from there on. Monsters became implacable killing machines. Nobody cared about the zombies. They were just things. No one cared about the shark in JAWS. It has as much sympathy and feeling as the flesh-eating zombies from any of the George Romero movies. The xenomorph from ALIEN, the cyborg from TERMINATOR, Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, and most of the rest have no personality. There are some exceptions. The alien hunter from THE PREDATOR franchise, The Tall Man from the PHANTASM movies, Freddy Krueger, and Chucky for example. Pennywise the Clown or "IT" are also memorable monsters.
First Universal Studios and then Hammer Pictures had a lock on the "greats" and since then? Not so much. It appears Blumhouse is attempting to fill the void but so far? Nothing much to see. I can't bring myself to watch any of the TERRIFIER movies. They appear to be sadism for the sake of sadism - more torture porn like the HOSTEL and SAW franchise (which I haven't bothered with either). Until I read this I assumed Art the Clown was just another mass-murderer and wasn't aware that like Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees - he had transformed into a supernatural or preternatural "monster." Nonetheless? I'll still pass. The last good horror movie I can recall watching was THE BABADOOK.
I had high hopes when I binge-watched PENNY DREADFUL. The modern Barbara Steele, Eva Green, was the star. So I expected a lot. It was "dreadful" alright. It glamorized rather than condemned Dorian Gray (for example) and SPOILER ALERT none of the characters have any arc of redemption. If anything the series is full of despair and the message appears to be "embrace your sins." Later I learned the writer was an open homosexual. That explained a lot.
Loved Terrifier 3, have not seen these other two films yet. Was explicitly advised against watching the Suspiria remake by many. It certainly looks visually boring.
I could never get into any of the Dario Argento movies. Mario Bava? BLACK SUNDAY, BLACK SABBATH, PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES, and LISA AND THE DEVIL are all worth viewing at least once.
The way I feel about Saw movies, being so sick and depraved, it almost makes wish for censorship at times.
Anyone who would watch these type of sadist gore films and seriously enjoys them has no business with having guns or being around children. Sorry Not Sorry!
Terrifier stinks. None of the characters are killed off in any creative or interesting ways, it's just tons of blood and limbs being chopped off. It's actually very unimaginative and there's certainly nothing to the movie that's even remotely notable outside of the gore. Just a movie for people who are really in to live leak.
Agree about The Witch. It's very weird that people would think that this is a pro feminist movie. Sure, she's "liberated" from her male dominated family, but that's clearly bad as shown by the reasons you listed in the article. It's one of the better modern horror movies.
Also as a follow up to a question from your mailbag about horror remakes better than the original, I can think of 3 other than The Thing. Cronenberg's The Fly, the 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and the 1988 The Blob.
Sorry. I infinitely prefer the original THING. The John Carpenter remake was good and had the advantage of amazing practical effects, an Ennio Morricone soundtrack, and Kurt Russell. But the science versus military dimension was completely lacking and I appreciated the aspect of the movie where everyone works together to defeat the monster rather than the complete opposite of the remake. The remake of The Blob? Too many left-wing conspiracy elements for my taste. And there was no theme song written by Burt Bacharach! I'm divided on INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS. It helped the remake had a cameo of Kevin McCarthy . . .
The gore in Terrifier is so over the top that Art's actor said in an interview that he almost threw up during a scene. I would argue that the artistic merit of the film is that almost all the effects in the film are practical. Anyone can animate a bunch of gore with CGI; it takes real dedication to your craft to build and destroy all those dummies and animatronics.
While I agree CGI sucks and practical is always better, the Terrifier series is awful. It's just slicker Andreas Schnaas movies.
Cannot believe this is a real argument.
I actually like Terrifier, but they are not films that anyone should take seriously. Each movie is so over the top it basically turns into a comedy.
I respectfully disagree. It's getting more popular because it's the only thing that gets young people into the theater, and also comfortable, bored people like horror. It's left-coded in that people who have no real idea about life substitute it by watching "life" on screen.
Once you have kids and have lived a life past say 35 or 40, horror movies are stupid. By then, you should have experienced horror in real life and don't need cinematography as a facsimile. I don't mean stabbings and deaths in front of you. I'm talking about the normal mortal fear that comes from having kids, friends & family, financial issues, and medical issues. Stuff that doesn't last 2 hours and you can't eat popcorn during it.
I totally disagree. I've been to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and have seen my fair share of blood and gore. I'm over the age of 40. I have a family. And yet we all get a kick out of horror movies because they are fun and escapist fare. Every Saturday we gather around the television and watch SVENGOOLIE. Are some horror movies stupid? Sure. PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE would be the one every one points to. Yet THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, Val Lewton's THE CAT PEOPLE, Boris Karloff and Henry Daniell in THE BODY SNATCHER, THE BIRDS, CARNIVAL OF SOULS, THE HAUNTING, THE INNOCENTS (with Deborah Kerr), ROSEMARY'S BABY, THE EXORCIST, THE SIXTH SENSE, and THE OTHERS? All excellent movies. I would have included the latest iteration of NOSFERATU but a disgusting and needless inclusion of necrophilia in that otherwise excellent movie ruined the rest of the film for me. THE LAST VOYAGE OF THE DEMETER was also quite good although I don't believe it will ever be considered a "classic." As for the family thing? If you're a father then THE SHINING, A QUIET PLACE, and any of the WOLF MAN movies certainly explore "father issues." The first one with Lon Chaney, Junior was well-cast as the celebrated horror actor certainly had genuine father issues. The second one with Benecio Del Toro and his father, Anthony Perkins, is certainly the most bizarre iteration. The latest one with Christopher Abbott, who is also a father - probably explores the "fatherhood" aspect more deeply than the first two combined. No. Not at all "stupid."
Terrifier is anti Christian in imagery and intent even if not through it's plot. It should be censored, it should be rated X but it got around that by skipping the rating process everyone else has to go through. We should kill the director to round out my thoughts.
I believe this analysis of Terrifier having a Christian message originated with Jack Mason aka Perfume Nationalist
feminists watching the opening scene of The Witch where a hideous crone murders an infant and grinds it up in a giant mortar and pestle: "wow she's just like me"
I love horror movies and always have since I can remember. My favorite is the subgenre of "Monster Movies." Whereas a PSYCHO or even a WICKER MAN may be plausible, the fun for me was always watching The Golem, The Phantom of the Opera, Mister Hyde, Count Dracula, The Frankenstein Monster, The Mummy (both Kharis and Im Ho Tep), Larry Talbot's Wolf-Man, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, and other creatures - witches, ghouls, goblins, zombies, gremlins, ogres, medusas, killer robots, and aliens from outer space - terrorize the screen. I preferred The Outer Limits to The Twilight Zone because there was always a monster guaranteed on The Outer Limits. I loved the old television program Kolchak: The Night Stalker, because the protagonist was a sensible level-headed journeyman reporter (not a "journalist" from Columbia!) who encountered a different monster every week. The 1970s were a high point. In what other decade would you see a television movie about a sentient bulldozer systematically killing construction workers (KILLDOZER) or a Zuni fetish doll terrorizing a woman in her apartment (TRILOGY OF TERROR)?
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD was the game-changer. That was the one where the forces of law enforcement, the church, the military, or any other representative of civilization were not going to save the day. There's no cavalry riding in at the end. Nihilism reigned from there on. Monsters became implacable killing machines. Nobody cared about the zombies. They were just things. No one cared about the shark in JAWS. It has as much sympathy and feeling as the flesh-eating zombies from any of the George Romero movies. The xenomorph from ALIEN, the cyborg from TERMINATOR, Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, and most of the rest have no personality. There are some exceptions. The alien hunter from THE PREDATOR franchise, The Tall Man from the PHANTASM movies, Freddy Krueger, and Chucky for example. Pennywise the Clown or "IT" are also memorable monsters.
First Universal Studios and then Hammer Pictures had a lock on the "greats" and since then? Not so much. It appears Blumhouse is attempting to fill the void but so far? Nothing much to see. I can't bring myself to watch any of the TERRIFIER movies. They appear to be sadism for the sake of sadism - more torture porn like the HOSTEL and SAW franchise (which I haven't bothered with either). Until I read this I assumed Art the Clown was just another mass-murderer and wasn't aware that like Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees - he had transformed into a supernatural or preternatural "monster." Nonetheless? I'll still pass. The last good horror movie I can recall watching was THE BABADOOK.
I had high hopes when I binge-watched PENNY DREADFUL. The modern Barbara Steele, Eva Green, was the star. So I expected a lot. It was "dreadful" alright. It glamorized rather than condemned Dorian Gray (for example) and SPOILER ALERT none of the characters have any arc of redemption. If anything the series is full of despair and the message appears to be "embrace your sins." Later I learned the writer was an open homosexual. That explained a lot.
I will definitely check out THE WITCH though.
"As someone who devoured films like Cannibal Holocaust as a teen"
Talk about burying the lede
Loved Terrifier 3, have not seen these other two films yet. Was explicitly advised against watching the Suspiria remake by many. It certainly looks visually boring.
I could never get into any of the Dario Argento movies. Mario Bava? BLACK SUNDAY, BLACK SABBATH, PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES, and LISA AND THE DEVIL are all worth viewing at least once.