It's also a whitepill that WOKE has become an epithet; a thing to run away from.
But I really hope that BASED doesn't mean just owning the Left. Conservatives have been doing that since the 1980s, and media conservatives have made millions off it. It's tiresome. We don't need a BASED Bill O'Reilly popping up on Fox in 5 years. That would be almost certainly be a clone of Brooklyn Hollyhead or whatever his name is. Brought to you by Black Rifle Coffee Company, Liberty University, and Patriot Gold IRA.
The concept of a "Woke Right" is absurd simply for the fact it doesn't have institutional gravitas. This is the key - it's how people were forced to tell themselves they believed in any of the principles of Woke Leftism. When you basically hold people's livelihoods at stake, you can make them fall in line quite easy.
I do understand what you're saying in that BASED keeps the Right in line. At the same time, BASED isn't all good ideas. A lot of it's quite retarded. The Nazi stuff, especially, as it doesn't have any sort of philosophical grounding with American right-wing thinking. I'm also of the belief that Americans foundational political views haven't really changed remarkably. There's really no polling showing support for mass deportations, for one. The only thing that's really changed is that Americans may be less engaged, which isn't necessarily a good thing. As we saw with the No Kings protests, the Left can still mobilize effectively and monopolize political attention like no other. This is still very much their show.
Point being, being BASED is hardly sufficient. The Right needs to provide a positive vision for America beyond just being anti-leftist. America remains quite leftist in its values and Trump's message, whatever it might be, is getting lost in the din. As you said, most Americans are going to ultimately judge Trump on the basis of the economy and on that front, he's not doing so great.
Unless any of this changes, BASED is all about preaching to the choir, nothing more.
Well, good. Polls over the summer showed something quite different. Also notice the partisan disparity on the question of deporting all illegals regardless, which hasn't changed, though Indies are now mostly in favor. Again, a positive development.
Now's my turn to tell you to maybe look a little harder. X is full of right-wing accounts, most notably the highly popular Martyr Made and 9mmSMG, engaging in Nazi revisionism. Leaving aside a lot of this revisionism is based off bad history, the fact is, that stuff is still well over the line for most Americans. "Nazis were bad" is hardly a controversial statement, even if Americans have a comic book-level understanding of Nazism. I don't mind people exploring different ideas and perspectives - that's the purpose of intellectual inquiry - but a lot of these accounts are very clearly trying to rehab the image of the Nazis. There was even that Republican politician who stated the "wrong side" won WWII.
The bigger problem is that the online Right spends more time talking about Hitler than Washington. Shows a complete disconnect from the American Right's own history and philosophical underpinnings.
Have you read The Cultured Thug Handbook? I agree we need a new vision and American conservatives will never have it. We must learn what ideas exist beyond liberalism to build a healthy, good / strong vision to save what remains.
A good man like Dennis Prager might say our decisions, voting or purchasing, are emotion based. There are more recent studies called behavioral economics that measure these emotive choices. People shouldn't trust their feelings, but act more rationally and consider things longer term. Thanks.
The Right lacks Machiavellians. Ironically, in the early Trump days, this is the archetype of the leader many on the Right claimed we needed. Strangely, being from the business world, Trump seemed like he fit the mold. I say strangely because it's become clear Trump isn't exactly a cunning, Machiavellian type. Elon Musk doesn't exactly seem that way, either, despite being from the business world.
Now, the Right expects Trump to be a strong and disciplined leader who draws on authority and tradition to bring about order and stability. But he's not really that, either, because he also lacks strength and discipline. As for authority and tradition, he doesn't know about 80% of the stuff the online Right talks about. What people like about him is his willingness to stand up to the really bad guys. But he himself is largely a vision-less leader.
Even leaders who promise to deliver order and stability have to do so in an idealistic manner. This is even more critical during moments where there's no apparent existential crisis. Maybe things just haven't gotten bad enough.
Based is speaking clearly and accurately about race realism and the JQ while advocating for positive white consciousness. The term was introduced by Alt Right and Alt Light reformers in 2015 or thereabouts. It is a white positivity adjective, not a conservative term. The anti-whites are desperate to keep based-speech outside the acceptable Overton Window ala the Noam Chomsky narrowing method, and they are using all sorts of lawfare and psychological operations to keep it there. X and to a lesser extent Substack are helping truth-tellers break through the control measures that have been effective for several decades. Hence, the anti-whites (many of them Zionist) have concocted a plan to colonize both platforms. Netanyahu announced their intentions last week. They already took Tik Tok away by purchasing it. Who knows how they have been able to motivate Musk to alter his algorithms (perhaps by threatening his other business endeavors or something more sinister which would not surprise me), but it seems to be working this week. Aspiring based accounts are being flooded with paid Zionist shills as false flags and guilt by association traps are being undertaken. The key nouveau-based influencers, Carlson, Owens and others, are being given less eye-balls or are crazified because the anti-whites are desperate to stop them from being considered respectable sources of information. In Europe and Canada they just arrest the based truth-tellers. If they had that power they would do that in the US. Soon, they will have that power. At its core, this is a war on truth and this is a moment of truth.
Scott’s definition of woke doesn’t suck, but it doesn’t go far enough.
The Woke are DEI / intersectionality / Critical Theory oppressor-oppressed ideologues.
Woke is rooted in the (quasi-religious) belief in oppressor-oppressed ideology, which states that the evil rich white Christian (or Jewish in the case of Israel) straight male capitalist patriarchy is responsible for all evil - and little good - in our zero-sum world.
And that the oppressed have the right BY. ANY. MEANS. NECESSARY. to overcome their oppressors.
This last is the key dividing line.
Feelings about Hamas (not “the Palestinians”, not Israel or what U.S. public policy should be, but Hamas) are the ultimate woke litmus test.
The woke believe that the evil rich white capitalist Israeli colonizers are oppressing the poor without agency PoC Palestinian natives, and so Hamas has the right and obligation to butcher, torture, rape and take hostages of civilians, including babies. And should be supported because their goals are just.
The 30+ Harvard student groups who proclaimed on Oct 8th “We hold Israel entirely responsible for all unfolding violence in the region” are the epitome of woke.
Those on the left who don’t support Hamas are mostly “progressives”, but they are not woke.
They may be into “soft-woke” (Political Correctness on steroids), but that is not woke. This actually describes a lot of older progressives, and it is what most distinguishes them from the tiny fraction of “center-left” that remains.
The fact that they refuse to “punch left” and criticize the oppressor-oppressed radical woke in their coalition is why support for Dems is at an all-time low, but is not the same as these “progressives” all being woke.
It's also a whitepill that WOKE has become an epithet; a thing to run away from.
But I really hope that BASED doesn't mean just owning the Left. Conservatives have been doing that since the 1980s, and media conservatives have made millions off it. It's tiresome. We don't need a BASED Bill O'Reilly popping up on Fox in 5 years. That would be almost certainly be a clone of Brooklyn Hollyhead or whatever his name is. Brought to you by Black Rifle Coffee Company, Liberty University, and Patriot Gold IRA.
The concept of a "Woke Right" is absurd simply for the fact it doesn't have institutional gravitas. This is the key - it's how people were forced to tell themselves they believed in any of the principles of Woke Leftism. When you basically hold people's livelihoods at stake, you can make them fall in line quite easy.
I do understand what you're saying in that BASED keeps the Right in line. At the same time, BASED isn't all good ideas. A lot of it's quite retarded. The Nazi stuff, especially, as it doesn't have any sort of philosophical grounding with American right-wing thinking. I'm also of the belief that Americans foundational political views haven't really changed remarkably. There's really no polling showing support for mass deportations, for one. The only thing that's really changed is that Americans may be less engaged, which isn't necessarily a good thing. As we saw with the No Kings protests, the Left can still mobilize effectively and monopolize political attention like no other. This is still very much their show.
Point being, being BASED is hardly sufficient. The Right needs to provide a positive vision for America beyond just being anti-leftist. America remains quite leftist in its values and Trump's message, whatever it might be, is getting lost in the din. As you said, most Americans are going to ultimately judge Trump on the basis of the economy and on that front, he's not doing so great.
Unless any of this changes, BASED is all about preaching to the choir, nothing more.
I've never seen a large right-wing account promoting nazi stuff and being called based.
Here's a recent poll from Harvard/Harris, showing 56% of Americans supporting mass deportations. Before commenting, maybe do a GPT/Grok search.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/08/polls-show-americans-overwhelmingly-support-president-trumps-mass-deportations
Well, good. Polls over the summer showed something quite different. Also notice the partisan disparity on the question of deporting all illegals regardless, which hasn't changed, though Indies are now mostly in favor. Again, a positive development.
Now's my turn to tell you to maybe look a little harder. X is full of right-wing accounts, most notably the highly popular Martyr Made and 9mmSMG, engaging in Nazi revisionism. Leaving aside a lot of this revisionism is based off bad history, the fact is, that stuff is still well over the line for most Americans. "Nazis were bad" is hardly a controversial statement, even if Americans have a comic book-level understanding of Nazism. I don't mind people exploring different ideas and perspectives - that's the purpose of intellectual inquiry - but a lot of these accounts are very clearly trying to rehab the image of the Nazis. There was even that Republican politician who stated the "wrong side" won WWII.
The bigger problem is that the online Right spends more time talking about Hitler than Washington. Shows a complete disconnect from the American Right's own history and philosophical underpinnings.
Have you read The Cultured Thug Handbook? I agree we need a new vision and American conservatives will never have it. We must learn what ideas exist beyond liberalism to build a healthy, good / strong vision to save what remains.
A good man like Dennis Prager might say our decisions, voting or purchasing, are emotion based. There are more recent studies called behavioral economics that measure these emotive choices. People shouldn't trust their feelings, but act more rationally and consider things longer term. Thanks.
The Right lacks Machiavellians. Ironically, in the early Trump days, this is the archetype of the leader many on the Right claimed we needed. Strangely, being from the business world, Trump seemed like he fit the mold. I say strangely because it's become clear Trump isn't exactly a cunning, Machiavellian type. Elon Musk doesn't exactly seem that way, either, despite being from the business world.
Now, the Right expects Trump to be a strong and disciplined leader who draws on authority and tradition to bring about order and stability. But he's not really that, either, because he also lacks strength and discipline. As for authority and tradition, he doesn't know about 80% of the stuff the online Right talks about. What people like about him is his willingness to stand up to the really bad guys. But he himself is largely a vision-less leader.
Even leaders who promise to deliver order and stability have to do so in an idealistic manner. This is even more critical during moments where there's no apparent existential crisis. Maybe things just haven't gotten bad enough.
Scott always seems to write what I’m thinking
Based is speaking clearly and accurately about race realism and the JQ while advocating for positive white consciousness. The term was introduced by Alt Right and Alt Light reformers in 2015 or thereabouts. It is a white positivity adjective, not a conservative term. The anti-whites are desperate to keep based-speech outside the acceptable Overton Window ala the Noam Chomsky narrowing method, and they are using all sorts of lawfare and psychological operations to keep it there. X and to a lesser extent Substack are helping truth-tellers break through the control measures that have been effective for several decades. Hence, the anti-whites (many of them Zionist) have concocted a plan to colonize both platforms. Netanyahu announced their intentions last week. They already took Tik Tok away by purchasing it. Who knows how they have been able to motivate Musk to alter his algorithms (perhaps by threatening his other business endeavors or something more sinister which would not surprise me), but it seems to be working this week. Aspiring based accounts are being flooded with paid Zionist shills as false flags and guilt by association traps are being undertaken. The key nouveau-based influencers, Carlson, Owens and others, are being given less eye-balls or are crazified because the anti-whites are desperate to stop them from being considered respectable sources of information. In Europe and Canada they just arrest the based truth-tellers. If they had that power they would do that in the US. Soon, they will have that power. At its core, this is a war on truth and this is a moment of truth.
Scott’s definition of woke doesn’t suck, but it doesn’t go far enough.
The Woke are DEI / intersectionality / Critical Theory oppressor-oppressed ideologues.
Woke is rooted in the (quasi-religious) belief in oppressor-oppressed ideology, which states that the evil rich white Christian (or Jewish in the case of Israel) straight male capitalist patriarchy is responsible for all evil - and little good - in our zero-sum world.
And that the oppressed have the right BY. ANY. MEANS. NECESSARY. to overcome their oppressors.
This last is the key dividing line.
Feelings about Hamas (not “the Palestinians”, not Israel or what U.S. public policy should be, but Hamas) are the ultimate woke litmus test.
The woke believe that the evil rich white capitalist Israeli colonizers are oppressing the poor without agency PoC Palestinian natives, and so Hamas has the right and obligation to butcher, torture, rape and take hostages of civilians, including babies. And should be supported because their goals are just.
The 30+ Harvard student groups who proclaimed on Oct 8th “We hold Israel entirely responsible for all unfolding violence in the region” are the epitome of woke.
Those on the left who don’t support Hamas are mostly “progressives”, but they are not woke.
They may be into “soft-woke” (Political Correctness on steroids), but that is not woke. This actually describes a lot of older progressives, and it is what most distinguishes them from the tiny fraction of “center-left” that remains.
The fact that they refuse to “punch left” and criticize the oppressor-oppressed radical woke in their coalition is why support for Dems is at an all-time low, but is not the same as these “progressives” all being woke.
James Lindsay kissed the wall (wonder if Scott has too?). Like Rufo, he is a paid shill (wonder if Scott is too?—idk).
probably is the BASED thats just edgy hitler and nazi things that dont move anything forward