Considering the demographic changes that no red meat throwing that Trump does can reverse, the successful outcomes for the conservative movement will range from Bolsonaro to Bukele which is not so bad in theory. But in practice, you will either have Brazil tier favela neighbourhoods or Silicon Valley Indin city-states because of human capital issues that no president will be able to alleviate without actually resorting to some hyper-extremist stuff (I am not talking about putting criminals in jails, thats just bare minimum moderate centrism). But bigger problem of course lies on the other side of political spectrum with Latino-Asian socialism promising to be as destructive and radical as it has always been in other countries of the region. But socialism will also mean the end of hard power projection for American empire, and I bet they won’t even have resources to sustain the soft power (USAID)
I would say much of the latin american and east asian worlds are the saner, more stable areas whereas the OECD countries, Sub Saharan Africa, and the arab/Islamic world just keep getting whackier.
Before I started reading and agreeing with the alt-right, I was a center-leftist. To me, the conservative or Republican base had always been conspiratorial, and threw money at anyone who predicted the end of the world were nigh. Look at ammo prices the minute a Democrat gets elected president. These people tend to be reactive morons.
I don't read left-wingers anymore, but that was the sentiment: right-wingers were dumb. At least the base was. They were easily fooled. They lapped up the shlock that their politicians and talk-radio hosts served them, and then turned that anger onto relatives at at Thanksgiving dinner.
Of course the left is just as credulous, and up their own ass in a different way. But I am not the least bit surprised that the same people who made Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly popular also make Candace Owens popular.
>Unlike nationalism, there is no real agenda to Insane Clown Populism. The ICP is a popular tendency within the conservative media but it can’t translate into an electoral platform. It’s hard to expect Republicans to be elected on promises to arrest Erika Kirk and fight chemtrails
Putting a 37-year-old woman in handcuffs is not that hard. Sure, a judge might say that Candace's dreams do not count as admissible evidence and order her release, but since when do we listen to judges? Rightist media is full of calls to ignore the judiciary, if you're going to do it for immigration, why not do it for conspiracy theories and religion, which many on the Right are equally passionate about?
There are parts of the ICP where it's accurate to say they lack a policy agenda. Think the wigger rappers, metalheads, and Hulk Hogan fans for whom a MAGA rally is entertainment and little more. But the religious types do have a policy agenda. Prosecuting people for "blasphemy" or "witchcraft," shutting down non-Christian religious institutions, teaching their dogma in schools, banning abortion, pornography, IVF, embryo selection, and basically any sex at all. It's unlikely that their agenda will win over the voters, though it's sufficiently bad that we should not take our chances. More likely is that this results in the GOP becoming on a national level what it is in California, a permanent minority power unable to act as a meaningful check on the left's lunacy. Stopping that will require unity among all Rightists who agree that we should not go back to 1720 ideas about religion or government. Nationalists and traditional Republicans have no choice but to work together.
I see Republicans having trouble unless someone young emerges with charisma. I also wonder if they will try a Non White or a female, since the old guard has the woke stuff too. Running candidates like Herschel Walker and Royce White. Tucker Carlson running would be interesting, but otherwise you get Rubio, Mike Pence, Rand Paul, or Nikki Haley in 2028.
The Dems have the same problem, and I would argue that the Republicans have more young, charismatic people waiting in the wings than the Dems do. The Dems purge their charismatic people, leaving us with shrill, self-righteous, non-white-male types. I think the Dems would kill for a (nonwhitemale version of a) guy like JD Vance who's in a solid marriage.
Trouble is, beyond a few outliers like JD, there are very few decent people that want to be in politics nowadays, or "being called for public service" as the Boomers remember it. But Imagine picking a job where you deal with Lindsey Grahams all day. JD may even be a psycho too, but I don't think so.
Considering the demographic changes that no red meat throwing that Trump does can reverse, the successful outcomes for the conservative movement will range from Bolsonaro to Bukele which is not so bad in theory. But in practice, you will either have Brazil tier favela neighbourhoods or Silicon Valley Indin city-states because of human capital issues that no president will be able to alleviate without actually resorting to some hyper-extremist stuff (I am not talking about putting criminals in jails, thats just bare minimum moderate centrism). But bigger problem of course lies on the other side of political spectrum with Latino-Asian socialism promising to be as destructive and radical as it has always been in other countries of the region. But socialism will also mean the end of hard power projection for American empire, and I bet they won’t even have resources to sustain the soft power (USAID)
I would say much of the latin american and east asian worlds are the saner, more stable areas whereas the OECD countries, Sub Saharan Africa, and the arab/Islamic world just keep getting whackier.
Before I started reading and agreeing with the alt-right, I was a center-leftist. To me, the conservative or Republican base had always been conspiratorial, and threw money at anyone who predicted the end of the world were nigh. Look at ammo prices the minute a Democrat gets elected president. These people tend to be reactive morons.
I don't read left-wingers anymore, but that was the sentiment: right-wingers were dumb. At least the base was. They were easily fooled. They lapped up the shlock that their politicians and talk-radio hosts served them, and then turned that anger onto relatives at at Thanksgiving dinner.
Of course the left is just as credulous, and up their own ass in a different way. But I am not the least bit surprised that the same people who made Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly popular also make Candace Owens popular.
Agreed, it's just that the flavor of conspiratorialism has become dumber because the country is less white, even the GOP.
>Unlike nationalism, there is no real agenda to Insane Clown Populism. The ICP is a popular tendency within the conservative media but it can’t translate into an electoral platform. It’s hard to expect Republicans to be elected on promises to arrest Erika Kirk and fight chemtrails
Putting a 37-year-old woman in handcuffs is not that hard. Sure, a judge might say that Candace's dreams do not count as admissible evidence and order her release, but since when do we listen to judges? Rightist media is full of calls to ignore the judiciary, if you're going to do it for immigration, why not do it for conspiracy theories and religion, which many on the Right are equally passionate about?
There are parts of the ICP where it's accurate to say they lack a policy agenda. Think the wigger rappers, metalheads, and Hulk Hogan fans for whom a MAGA rally is entertainment and little more. But the religious types do have a policy agenda. Prosecuting people for "blasphemy" or "witchcraft," shutting down non-Christian religious institutions, teaching their dogma in schools, banning abortion, pornography, IVF, embryo selection, and basically any sex at all. It's unlikely that their agenda will win over the voters, though it's sufficiently bad that we should not take our chances. More likely is that this results in the GOP becoming on a national level what it is in California, a permanent minority power unable to act as a meaningful check on the left's lunacy. Stopping that will require unity among all Rightists who agree that we should not go back to 1720 ideas about religion or government. Nationalists and traditional Republicans have no choice but to work together.
I see Republicans having trouble unless someone young emerges with charisma. I also wonder if they will try a Non White or a female, since the old guard has the woke stuff too. Running candidates like Herschel Walker and Royce White. Tucker Carlson running would be interesting, but otherwise you get Rubio, Mike Pence, Rand Paul, or Nikki Haley in 2028.
The Dems have the same problem, and I would argue that the Republicans have more young, charismatic people waiting in the wings than the Dems do. The Dems purge their charismatic people, leaving us with shrill, self-righteous, non-white-male types. I think the Dems would kill for a (nonwhitemale version of a) guy like JD Vance who's in a solid marriage.
Trouble is, beyond a few outliers like JD, there are very few decent people that want to be in politics nowadays, or "being called for public service" as the Boomers remember it. But Imagine picking a job where you deal with Lindsey Grahams all day. JD may even be a psycho too, but I don't think so.
Finished it last night, so congrats on the book!