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Dutchman8686's avatar

Thanks for the quick primer on 'right-wing' influencers to avoid like Ebola. I may have giggled a bit about the Obama and Biden regimes' foreign policy faceplants back in the day, but only in the context that these failures validated the need for new leadership, and never in situations where American lives were at stake. Jane Fonda is the third worst thing this country has ever produced, behind Hick-Hop and aspartame; the word gets too lightly thrown around these days, but she and the alt-righters carrying on her act are treasonous by definition and need to face consequences.

Shade of Achilles's avatar

if you're being funded to tip this swill it's bad. It's even worse if you're not. Not even BAP is going this far...yet.

CavalierEnjoyer's avatar

I read this during the BushCon years I think.

Scott Greer's avatar

The article makes an anti-interventionist case, so this isn't Bushism.

Hecatomb's avatar

Retarded boomer take.

Skeptical1's avatar

Thanks for the advice, Ben Shapiro!

SamizBOT's avatar

Scott in your opinion has the right or the left been the most psychically shattered by October 7th?

Scott Greer's avatar

I don't know about psychically shattered. The Right had these elements before 10/7. There's just more of an audience for this stuff now. If you're an influencer, it's better to be anti-Trump than pro. There's also more foreign elements within the online right sphere, so being anti-American will also find a bigger audience than it would have in the past.

Marko's avatar

Speaking for myself, I was never a flag-waver and I preferred the people's wellbeing over some abstract love for "America". If the people are flourishing, then all's good with America. I don't do the thing where you "salute the rank not the person"...I do not salute a flag that stands for warmongering and globohomo. I still don't. I remember those 10 years (roughly 2014 to roughly 2024) where it seemed we were headed to a terrible Maoist future. I won't salute the flag or celebrate "our men and women in uniform" as long as there's still large swaths of my government wanting nonstop foreign wars while barbarians pour in to our country.

I appreciate Trump and how America - the lone Western country - voted for a revolutionary candidate (3 times) against what was called neoliberalism and the ZOG and the GAE, and I agree that our fortunes are tied up with Trump and he's probably the closest we'll ever get to a Pepe in the White House. We should be grateful. If Trump's vision wins out, I will be proud to be an American. But for the moment, I am not, but I'm also not supporting Iran or China or the Palestinians either. I am a white man in North America who only salutes the people keeping our complex society running instead of stealing from it.

Art Vandelay's avatar

One thing to consider is that social media isn’t real life. And the more retarded takes the Online Right pursues, the more they risk alienating themselves and eroding whatever influence they do have. Candace Owens and increasingly Tucker Carlson are good examples of this.

Signor Pellegrino's avatar

Why don’t you join the military?

You need a job, don’t you?

Spencer's avatar
1hEdited

In your American Conservative article that you link to, you write the following:

“The online world offers the ability to learn information you would never otherwise absorb and connect with people with whom you would never otherwise connect. It’s a gift, and it particularly benefits the right. Without it, right-wing thought would still be suppressed by the traditional media apparatus.”

In light of that observation, what do you think of Hanania’s claim that the mainstream media is “honest and good”? In other words, how do you think right-wing internet news/information sources (excluding “Insane Clown World” obviously) compare to the MSM?

Burning Pinto's avatar

It's not anti Americanism as much as it is anti Israelism. Many public commentators on the "right" speak as if America and Israel are one entity, and I don't believe it's just accidental due to years of subtle and not so subtle "Judeo Christian" messaging, it's to keep people from realizing there IS daylight between what we as Americans want and what the jewish fanatics in Israel want.

Scott Greer's avatar

No the people im talking about were clear it's about America, not just israel.

Burning Pinto's avatar

Good because we get enough of that tired old BS from the Boomers who are paid to do that

SomeReader's avatar

You could also look at it the opposite way. These Online Right extremists (whom you spend half your time deriding) could actually be a harbinger of the future. I don't agree that they can be easily dismissed. They don't believe in a traditional nation-state such as what you or many of us conventionally believe in, but they're more about stateless tribes pursuing tribal interests, and maybe that's the future.

Scott Greer's avatar

They don't even have a coherent view. These are loners typing away at a computer. They're not forming stateless tribes and are too individualistic and disagreeable to pursue any kind of group interests. Just look at the record of how alt right groups worked.

Fawning over non-white governments isn't a sign of high white in-group preference, nor is acceptance of non-whites within their ranks.

It's probably true you will see more of this stuff in the future on the internet, but it will have no impact in real life.

Rowhouse's avatar
2hEdited

What is your view of Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens? Do they have a future influence with candidates or are they in the outside looking in?