On the slopification point, I'm afraid that, even with immigration restriction, there might not be any hope of reversing this trend. Plenty of whites, especially on the conservative side, that eat up the slop too.
Different parts of America went in different directions.
Where the white electorate was split 50/50 more immigrants gave us Californication. The coasts and Chicago are now completely different societies because of immigration. Hispanics hooked into the local urban machine politics and made these places into corrupt one party leftist states.
In the Sunbelt, where whites would routinely break 60/40 or 70/30 Red, upwardly mobile "white hispanics" would settle in the sprawling growing suburbs and become at least partly assimilated. In an environment where high status whites still considered themselves conservative, white hispanics became more conservative.
The Upper Midwest, which has seen less immigration, has been more of a mixed bag.
Charles Murray identified two possible responses to Hispanic immigration:
1) Californication (one party far left rule based on welfarism and urban machine politics).
2) Latin Amerification of the GOP, which you pretty much got with Trump. The guy isn't going to be cutting Social Security anytime soon like Romney/Ryan at least pretended they were going to do.
I think the path forward for the GOP is to try and reduce the reach of the federal government and give the Sunbelt a chance to build a kind of parallel society. The recent huge win on school vouchers there makes a big difference.
Another odd quirk of our system is that foreign born count in the census for congressional and electoral votes. I think we can win the war of domestic migration by building better societies in the sunbelt, but if CA/NY can keep afloat by importing foreigners that will retard it.
Samuel Huntington hardly was from the "Right." He was an old school leftist, and served in one Democratic administration and advised others. Huntington is a reminder that until very recently many Democrats were immigration skeptics. Also, do not just yet count out his theory about Atzlan. Pockets of the Southwest are effectively under cartel control, which is de facto Mexican government control. New Mexico is considered the worst state in part due to the crime this often spawns. Even if the California state government decided to cooperate with ICE, to give another example, it would be irrelevant as you can see with the illegal alien resistance there.
The Coalition of the Fringes has indeed proved a silly fantasy and likely catastrophe for the Democratic Party. But the mass migration its adherents embraced means redistributive economics is the future in some form. Karl Rove sort of was right about the conservative nature of Hispanics, particularly, even if he outright lied about them wanting and supporting immigration. Still, they are far more prone to want a mixed economy.
Following up on that last point, the dispersal of low skilled immigrants you noted likely is fleeting. Over time, and as long as cities are capable of providing more transfer payments and benefits, these newcomers will leave rural areas and gravitate to urban centers. This is when Brazilification takes full effect, and it is almost a certitude. White people have been voting with their feet a long time and this will accelerate as that unfolds.
America is and will continue to collapse due to demographic change. The races are different. Furthermore, many races are filled with resentment aimed at whites.
The only solution is to seize the federal government, restrict citizenship to white men only, completely restrict citizenship, and deport 100m+
Similar to how Nietzsche underestimated how consumerism would prevent nihilism the right consistently underestimates how powerful slop is, what is to be done about this I don’t know
Republicans wanted the great replacement too. America has been treated like an economic zone instead of a nation. The right - left dichotomy composed between democrats and republicans both agree on universal truths that are in fact wrong. Talking about republican politics as a way out of the great replacement places false hope. Just enough to placate the white majority long enough to lose what power they have left to ensure the existence of the white race. Nationalism is the cure. Love your people. What we need is a fragment of the remnant WASP elite that actually wants that too. Not Tucker Carlson - who blatantly said he will rebuke the future’s proclaimed leaders of American whites. Tribe up or die white folk.
When the ICE rioters in LA were waving their Mexican flags and pontificating about California being "stolen land" that was a perfect opportunity for Donald Trump to agree and sign an immediate treaty with Mexico returning the state to Mexican jurisdiction. Everyone wins! California leaves the union and the Republicans immediately gain a +2 advantage in the Senate and like +25 in the house of representatives, and the Democrats lose their guaranteed 52 electoral votes every four years. Plus the voters of California could enjoy the Mexican-level of governance and social services that they truly deserve...
You almost have to wonder if it would’ve been, or would be better, for non-Whites to be more organized and aggressively anti-White.
Even though you have South Africa, and every incorrect Accelerationist prediction, cast a lot of doubt on that. However, White’s certainly aren’t going to ‘wake up’ from a peaceful, slow boil, mongrelization.
You would hope. Maybe it would’ve in past decades. If say average White people saw these views, and believed, rightly or wrongly, that most non-Whites felt this way and were posing an imminent threat to them.
And yeah, I bet some conservatives and even moderates would read stuff like that and have their minds opened a bit. Many such cases.
But today, I believe we’ve reached such a point of self hatred and intermixing, that it would have to be really extreme and in their face to change sentiments.
It would have to be like in South Africa where a political party chants "Kill the Boer" which is like saying "Kill the White people" and it was a major party running for office.
I just hope that if this changes, it’s not before Whites become too small of a minority to resist. Honestly, I’d rather live in a third world mutt hole than a prison camp.
Or better yet, some unforeseen path where Whites form some kind of identity without anything terrible happening. You can hope. Like people say, nobody could’ve predicted Trump, or covid, or so many other things.
The most depressing part was the lack of White identity. Would seem after all the media storm of attacks combined with anti White policies of the Biden administration you would see at least some changes. Not sure what would do it at this point. At least we know White men find White women the most attractive and Vice versa. White babies the cutest. That seems to be as far as it goes though.
If there was no great replacement, where do you think yuccies would live? They can't live in the brown ghetto because there is none. The black ghetto would be a much smaller area in most cities, and they would be surrounded by white trash who can see the bum in them and kick their ass.
I think the reason why the Yuccies (Hipsters) are the vanguard of the DSA is *because* of mass immigration and downward mobility.
Because they feel isolated as white suburbanites in the brown urban ghetto, but they can't admit it because they're pc, they grasp toward hipster culture as a way of asserting implicit upper middle class identity and rejecting both the hood around them and white conservative culture amongst NYC native lower middle classes.
Mamdani grew up in a white neighborhood although he attended an Asian/mixed HS (Bronx Science) so he knows how to cater to multiple groups of people, including the DSA types.
The main reason brown people vote Dem is because they're afraid of being deported lol.
Multiculturalism is just one factor upsetting Americans today.
Even as the Republican train goes off the rails driven by an increasingly insane engineer my former party the Democratic Party sinks even deeper.
The Democrats lost in 2024 and will continue to lose in the future because of one reason. They have lost the support of the American working class.
The historic Democratic icons FDR, and JFK would laugh at what passes for policy in their beloved party. Although they were upper class they understood that victory for their party depended on appealing to working class voters. Current party leaders distain the “deplorable” and “racist” members of the working class.
Working class Americans hate the following four policies foisted on them by Democrats
Working class people have had their wages depressed by illegal immigrants who will work for next to nothing just to be here. Their rents rise because we don’t have enough housing for our own citizens let alone millions of interlopers. The Democrats opened our borders to all with no vetting and now complain when the worst among those who entered illegally are sent home. The age of mass migration is over. People have to stay home and fix their own country. Thank god and yes, Trump.
Democrats believe that a man can become a woman (he can’t) and should be allowed to play women’s sports and enter women’s private spaces including, unbelievably, those where they are naked and vulnerable, and that children, many of whom would grow up to be gay, should be mutilated in pursuit of the impossible. The vast majority of Americans and especially working class men want to protect women and children.
Democrats continue to discriminate on the basis of race and sex today because in the past there was discrimination on the basis of race and sex. That’s unconstitutional and the working class knows it.
Democrats allow the homeless, largely drug addicted and/or mentally ill individuals to degrade the quality of life of productive citizens because no one will say no: "no, you can't camp anywhere you want", "no, you can't shoot up and leave your used needles lying around", "no, you can't shit in our streets", no, you can't panhandle aggressively". We did a huge disservice to the homeless themselves when we closed rather than reform our state mental health hospitals. We need them back to provide custodial care for those who can’t survive in today’s world unassisted. They also need to admit that crime in big cities continues to be a major problem and to quit allowing Trump to take control of this issue. Make fighting criminals a major priority of the Democratic Party and especially Democratic mayors. Why are they always on their back foot on this issue? There is no political logic to being seen as soft on crime when most of the victims of crime are the very minorities that Democrats are supposed to champion.
It’s simply incredible to me that the Trump administration led by someone who I have no respect for is actually taking meaningful steps to address these problems while the Democrats either do nothing or actively resist needed change. Working class people understand that this is happening and will never again support today’s Democratic Party.
Great article.
On the slopification point, I'm afraid that, even with immigration restriction, there might not be any hope of reversing this trend. Plenty of whites, especially on the conservative side, that eat up the slop too.
The doomsday prophets of yesteryear were proven wrong only insofar as they didn't predict a depressingly vulgar lowbrow global monoculture. Oof
Different parts of America went in different directions.
Where the white electorate was split 50/50 more immigrants gave us Californication. The coasts and Chicago are now completely different societies because of immigration. Hispanics hooked into the local urban machine politics and made these places into corrupt one party leftist states.
In the Sunbelt, where whites would routinely break 60/40 or 70/30 Red, upwardly mobile "white hispanics" would settle in the sprawling growing suburbs and become at least partly assimilated. In an environment where high status whites still considered themselves conservative, white hispanics became more conservative.
The Upper Midwest, which has seen less immigration, has been more of a mixed bag.
Charles Murray identified two possible responses to Hispanic immigration:
1) Californication (one party far left rule based on welfarism and urban machine politics).
2) Latin Amerification of the GOP, which you pretty much got with Trump. The guy isn't going to be cutting Social Security anytime soon like Romney/Ryan at least pretended they were going to do.
I think the path forward for the GOP is to try and reduce the reach of the federal government and give the Sunbelt a chance to build a kind of parallel society. The recent huge win on school vouchers there makes a big difference.
Another odd quirk of our system is that foreign born count in the census for congressional and electoral votes. I think we can win the war of domestic migration by building better societies in the sunbelt, but if CA/NY can keep afloat by importing foreigners that will retard it.
Poignant. Its turning the country into "Yooessay" in the aesthetic vein of Britain's "Yookay"
also for much of the white middle class you can avoid all that
difference is one side seems to have political will
Is it just me, or is Atzlan secessionism more appealing than just a slow spiral into an atomized slop hole? I can't be the only one who thinks this.
maybe...but white people have given up so much only for things to never get better
Samuel Huntington hardly was from the "Right." He was an old school leftist, and served in one Democratic administration and advised others. Huntington is a reminder that until very recently many Democrats were immigration skeptics. Also, do not just yet count out his theory about Atzlan. Pockets of the Southwest are effectively under cartel control, which is de facto Mexican government control. New Mexico is considered the worst state in part due to the crime this often spawns. Even if the California state government decided to cooperate with ICE, to give another example, it would be irrelevant as you can see with the illegal alien resistance there.
The Coalition of the Fringes has indeed proved a silly fantasy and likely catastrophe for the Democratic Party. But the mass migration its adherents embraced means redistributive economics is the future in some form. Karl Rove sort of was right about the conservative nature of Hispanics, particularly, even if he outright lied about them wanting and supporting immigration. Still, they are far more prone to want a mixed economy.
Following up on that last point, the dispersal of low skilled immigrants you noted likely is fleeting. Over time, and as long as cities are capable of providing more transfer payments and benefits, these newcomers will leave rural areas and gravitate to urban centers. This is when Brazilification takes full effect, and it is almost a certitude. White people have been voting with their feet a long time and this will accelerate as that unfolds.
America is and will continue to collapse due to demographic change. The races are different. Furthermore, many races are filled with resentment aimed at whites.
The only solution is to seize the federal government, restrict citizenship to white men only, completely restrict citizenship, and deport 100m+
Similar to how Nietzsche underestimated how consumerism would prevent nihilism the right consistently underestimates how powerful slop is, what is to be done about this I don’t know
Republicans wanted the great replacement too. America has been treated like an economic zone instead of a nation. The right - left dichotomy composed between democrats and republicans both agree on universal truths that are in fact wrong. Talking about republican politics as a way out of the great replacement places false hope. Just enough to placate the white majority long enough to lose what power they have left to ensure the existence of the white race. Nationalism is the cure. Love your people. What we need is a fragment of the remnant WASP elite that actually wants that too. Not Tucker Carlson - who blatantly said he will rebuke the future’s proclaimed leaders of American whites. Tribe up or die white folk.
When the ICE rioters in LA were waving their Mexican flags and pontificating about California being "stolen land" that was a perfect opportunity for Donald Trump to agree and sign an immediate treaty with Mexico returning the state to Mexican jurisdiction. Everyone wins! California leaves the union and the Republicans immediately gain a +2 advantage in the Senate and like +25 in the house of representatives, and the Democrats lose their guaranteed 52 electoral votes every four years. Plus the voters of California could enjoy the Mexican-level of governance and social services that they truly deserve...
then the new border becomes oregon, nevada, arizona
True...but we can fix that!
https://www.greateridaho.org/
maybe...but white people have given up so much only for things to never get better
You almost have to wonder if it would’ve been, or would be better, for non-Whites to be more organized and aggressively anti-White.
Even though you have South Africa, and every incorrect Accelerationist prediction, cast a lot of doubt on that. However, White’s certainly aren’t going to ‘wake up’ from a peaceful, slow boil, mongrelization.
This guy's Twitter page should open up most White liberals or moderates at least that you know. https://x.com/danteking2020
You would hope. Maybe it would’ve in past decades. If say average White people saw these views, and believed, rightly or wrongly, that most non-Whites felt this way and were posing an imminent threat to them.
And yeah, I bet some conservatives and even moderates would read stuff like that and have their minds opened a bit. Many such cases.
But today, I believe we’ve reached such a point of self hatred and intermixing, that it would have to be really extreme and in their face to change sentiments.
It would have to be like in South Africa where a political party chants "Kill the Boer" which is like saying "Kill the White people" and it was a major party running for office.
I just hope that if this changes, it’s not before Whites become too small of a minority to resist. Honestly, I’d rather live in a third world mutt hole than a prison camp.
Or better yet, some unforeseen path where Whites form some kind of identity without anything terrible happening. You can hope. Like people say, nobody could’ve predicted Trump, or covid, or so many other things.
Mark Levine of Al Jazeera writing articles like this if massively read would seem to do it.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/11/17/abolishing-whiteness-has-never-been-more-urgent
The most depressing part was the lack of White identity. Would seem after all the media storm of attacks combined with anti White policies of the Biden administration you would see at least some changes. Not sure what would do it at this point. At least we know White men find White women the most attractive and Vice versa. White babies the cutest. That seems to be as far as it goes though.
@santa lucia The White women White male comment was meant for you since I still believe most of our White women believe this.
If there was no great replacement, where do you think yuccies would live? They can't live in the brown ghetto because there is none. The black ghetto would be a much smaller area in most cities, and they would be surrounded by white trash who can see the bum in them and kick their ass.
I think the reason why the Yuccies (Hipsters) are the vanguard of the DSA is *because* of mass immigration and downward mobility.
Because they feel isolated as white suburbanites in the brown urban ghetto, but they can't admit it because they're pc, they grasp toward hipster culture as a way of asserting implicit upper middle class identity and rejecting both the hood around them and white conservative culture amongst NYC native lower middle classes.
Mamdani grew up in a white neighborhood although he attended an Asian/mixed HS (Bronx Science) so he knows how to cater to multiple groups of people, including the DSA types.
The main reason brown people vote Dem is because they're afraid of being deported lol.
"Trump did extraordinarily well among minorities in the last election–while running on one of the most-race charged platforms in recent memory."
Once Trump is gone, do you expect that continue or it to snap back closer to what was previously predicted about demographics?
Multiculturalism is just one factor upsetting Americans today.
Even as the Republican train goes off the rails driven by an increasingly insane engineer my former party the Democratic Party sinks even deeper.
The Democrats lost in 2024 and will continue to lose in the future because of one reason. They have lost the support of the American working class.
The historic Democratic icons FDR, and JFK would laugh at what passes for policy in their beloved party. Although they were upper class they understood that victory for their party depended on appealing to working class voters. Current party leaders distain the “deplorable” and “racist” members of the working class.
Working class Americans hate the following four policies foisted on them by Democrats
Working class people have had their wages depressed by illegal immigrants who will work for next to nothing just to be here. Their rents rise because we don’t have enough housing for our own citizens let alone millions of interlopers. The Democrats opened our borders to all with no vetting and now complain when the worst among those who entered illegally are sent home. The age of mass migration is over. People have to stay home and fix their own country. Thank god and yes, Trump.
Democrats believe that a man can become a woman (he can’t) and should be allowed to play women’s sports and enter women’s private spaces including, unbelievably, those where they are naked and vulnerable, and that children, many of whom would grow up to be gay, should be mutilated in pursuit of the impossible. The vast majority of Americans and especially working class men want to protect women and children.
Democrats continue to discriminate on the basis of race and sex today because in the past there was discrimination on the basis of race and sex. That’s unconstitutional and the working class knows it.
Democrats allow the homeless, largely drug addicted and/or mentally ill individuals to degrade the quality of life of productive citizens because no one will say no: "no, you can't camp anywhere you want", "no, you can't shoot up and leave your used needles lying around", "no, you can't shit in our streets", no, you can't panhandle aggressively". We did a huge disservice to the homeless themselves when we closed rather than reform our state mental health hospitals. We need them back to provide custodial care for those who can’t survive in today’s world unassisted. They also need to admit that crime in big cities continues to be a major problem and to quit allowing Trump to take control of this issue. Make fighting criminals a major priority of the Democratic Party and especially Democratic mayors. Why are they always on their back foot on this issue? There is no political logic to being seen as soft on crime when most of the victims of crime are the very minorities that Democrats are supposed to champion.
It’s simply incredible to me that the Trump administration led by someone who I have no respect for is actually taking meaningful steps to address these problems while the Democrats either do nothing or actively resist needed change. Working class people understand that this is happening and will never again support today’s Democratic Party.