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Marko's avatar

Reading all those salty old alt-right superstars, whose arguments won over the Right - go watch an old Spencer college speech - and are blackpilling daily in 2026 is very off-putting.

Definitely like a No Doubt fan from 1991 that hated No Doubt post-"Don't Speak" and denied ever liking them, and also claims Gwen Stefani was ugly and maybe a Jew.

Clementine's avatar

I think their fundamental concern is that the party isn't being taken over quickly enough to make the difference, now that the Dems have dropped any pretense of legality. It's an understandable issue to have, and one that the establishment purposefully inflames both to demoralize and to divide.

Ultimately, though, I'd like to see prominent accounts on both sides of this divide spend more time doing things and less time sniping at each other. One clique's timeline is composed almost entirely of complaints about e.g. Candace Owens, when that time could be spent discussing the best way for ordinary people to take over their state GOP. The other clique's timeline is just complaints about Trump, when they'd be a lot more tolerable if they spent that time writing tutorials on how to build homemade Hezbollah-style FPV drones, or whatever they think the solution is.

Marko's avatar

One thing the Left does better is it *does* spend time discussing how to take over the local Democratic Party. That's why the DSA is prominent in elections now. But the Left is much more religious in nature than the Right when it comes to politics. A fundamental position of a right-winger is that things will naturally balance out, so activism is kind of a waste of time. Furthermore, rightists know instinctively that demonstrations are only allowed if they don't threaten the regime. When a REAL demonstration happens, we'll know. There will be people killed by law- and regime-enforcement. And it won't be "debateable" like we saw in Minneapolis.

This is why, ironically, the old alt right was spiritually leftist. Their little revolution did not go far enough, nobody wanted to take their ideas to their logical conclusions, so now they're bitter and misearable.

Cat C.'s avatar

To be fair, it's not just that the right-wingers thought "things will naturally balance out", but also they were (and are) more likely to be devoted to their family and their church/spiritual practice and local community, so they spend time there as opposed to driving 6 hours to another protest/riot like the obsessed leftists did (and do).

Clementine's avatar

One thing the Left does better is it does spend time discussing how to take over the local Democratic Party

This isn’t actually true. Conservative Intellectuals have spent 50 years claiming that the DNC is being taken over by the radicals, but the Bernie left is completely impotent, even compared to the somewhat flawed MAGA Right.

In 2016, Trump came in, bulldozed the competition, and got the nomination because it was clear that we’d burn the party down if they fucked with him. Bernie came in, got blocked by a dozen different shady tricks, and all of his supporters meekly waddled in to vote for Hillary anyways. Likewise, the GOP is in civil war over Israel, whereas the DNC, despite supposedly being the anti-Israel party, is just uniformly pro-Israel with no real pushback.

We should certainly be better at taking the party over, we should be faster, but we’ve been vastly more effective at fighting and beating the establishment than our leftie counterparts have.

Rowhouse's avatar

The people angry, probably have trouble in their own personal lives too. The cultural left still seems to have the ability to pressure certain things which is annoying, but it is so much better than it was before.

ryan thompson's avatar

The important thing to remember here is that not all the dissident views that have been mainstreamed are created equal. The JQ conspiratards have basically become a continuation of anti white racism by other means, whereby standing up for white people and their concrete interests (something Trump has been doing) is seen as a distraction from pushing lunatic antihedonistic puritanical conspiracy theories (pedophiles everywhere/Epstein) or just bashing jews and israel. To the point where they would rather have a multiracial oppressive anti free speech rainbow theocracy to 'own the jews' than do anything for poor whites who are struggling. These people are just as much of a danger as the old guard GOP or the woke left and perhaps even more of a threat. I would not include Matt Walsh in this, but Shroyer, Carlson, Shaefer, Von, Fishback, Fuentes, Kelly, Owens, you name it. It's becoming more and more clear that JD Vance is part of this clique (if it wasn't already from project 2025, which says little about defending white people) which is one of the reasons he should be sidelined. I agree with Greer's whitepill about the platforming of a pro white agenda, but a guy going behind Trump's back, married to an ugly non white woman (who is the only person he doesn't try to force his religion on, funnily enough), allied to big tech oligarchs who hate Trump and white people (I'm talking other than Elon) should not be the torch bearer for the new emerging GOP that will actually fight for us.

Clementine's avatar

If the Israel people were capable of compromise or coexistence, we wouldn't just have seen the entire political power structure mobilize to attack some random 19 year old for some slightly naughty language.

I understand the impulse to try to build bridges, but the Israel lobby has spent the past half-century taking all that they can and giving nothing whatsoever back. You don't have to build your platform around them, but being vaguely dismissive and disparaging to them is good politics and good policy. "Mean Tweets, World Peace" was much more impactful than most writers acknowledge - it came up every time I saw a normie explaining why he voted Trump.

ryan thompson's avatar

The problem here is there was always something about the anti-semite that made him suicidal, disregarding white interests. Look at Hitler. He was fine with millions of white boys dying to prove his point about the jews. And many of the anti-semites today think all the races should live together and own the jews. The more you actually spend time around these arabs, the more the whole 'Israel just won't compromise' narrative falls apart. As far as most non whites are concerned, jews and whites are the same and they hate them both. Whites are just beginning to learn what jews have known for a long time. When they say they want to exterminate you, they mean it.

SomeReader's avatar

Funnily enough there's a considerable number of white-nationalist white Jews on American Renaissance, VDare (which got shut down in 2023), and Steve Sailer's blog. Those sites focus on race, while anti-Semitism is open to non-whites, and thus is a bigger more lucrative market. They're right about Israel, about anti-white Jews like George Soros, etc., but an emphasis on anti-Semitism targeting white Jews in a race-based world kind of starts to smell funny. (Having said that, Israel is non-white, and should probably be distinguished somehow.)

ryan thompson's avatar

Your last point is understandable, but as I always say, the nons will bury jew and gentile in the same grave.

USMCVet's avatar

The author seems to think that conservatism operates in a vacuum - permanent stasis around the party of Reagan. Today's conservatism is driven by the realities around us; the massive invasion from the south under Biden, the emergence of transnational criminal gangs, the Leftist penchant for political murder, the submergence of former allies by Muslim immigrants, the rising influence (and danger) of the Chinese, the weird public emergence of sexual deviants, and so on.

Cause, meet effect.

Cat C.'s avatar

Lots of us online, should be self-congratulatory on how we helped this transformation. I remember way back at the C-PAC of 2020 (or maybe 2016?) when Dan Bongino went to the microphone on the stage and said "I've just been talking to our many 'citizen journalists' out there, who have worked hard to get the truth out" (paraphrased).