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Alex W's avatar

Great discussion. But, this probably at least somewhat understates the level of editorial control the influencer/podcaster class has with their audience.

If one compares to a John Oliver or Colbert, they can’t come out and suddenly be Trump supporters, for example, but they do still have meaningful control over what topics they cover and how they characterize and shade those topics.

Megyn Kelly or Tim Dillon or whoever have some editorial control. Maybe Megyn feels she can’t or doesn’t want to directly pick up the Candace/Charlie fight but she still gets to decide whether and how to much to talk about it and whether to endorse vs equivocate vs criticize. At least she equivocated vs endorsing, perhaps one could say.

Anyway - seems reasonable to continue to lobby for higher standards, particularly when it can be done in a way that isn’t completely non commercial, which it generally can.

The same revenue/economic constrains that apply to Megyn Kelly apply to John Stewart (also now a podcaster) or Preet Bharara or Scott himself for that matter. One doesn’t need to let these people off as powerless revenue maximizers. Megyn almost certainly does not even want to be a revenue maximizer - although she can’t ignore it either. So it takes some deftness to know what is reasonable and possible and then it makes sense to ask for and support it…

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Philip van Zandt's avatar

I watch Kelly regularly and I don't think this essay applies to her in the way that it would to Candace or Tucker. Megyn's comments are being wildly exaggerated and taken out of context. She is broadly not a conspiracy theorist and she doesn't indulge in strange woo-woo stuff. She doesn't stoop to the lowest common denominator.

Her big crime seems to be refusing to denounce and condemn Candace and Tucker. She hasn't endorsed any of their kooky takes; she just doesn't want to play the condemnation game.

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ryan thompson's avatar

"At least there are standards in traditional media". Not really, they just peddle non factual lunacy which caters to a different demographic. The woketards and conspiratards deserve each other. And sadly, it looks as though even though the woketards days are numbered they will be replaced not with Jared Taylor who wants you to have safe white neighborhoods again, but anti porn nannies who lecture about sexual morality while going to bed with a homely grotesque Indian. If we were comparing the critical pedo theorists to the traditional media of Cronkite and Murrow, the point would have some more validity, but even they peddled nonsense about race/communism. They were race communists they just weren't gay. That's basically all that's changed when it comes to the mainstream.

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Albert's avatar

the issue is that the media/world became too insane because of clownish leftists

in control of mainstream news,that conspiracy theories by conservatives turned out to be true

the great replacement? was just called a conspiracy theory at one point, had you told me 10 years ago the government would be pushing parents to castrate their boys in order to turn them into girls i would have called you crazy

everything Covid ,related to the vaccines ,the Epstein case,the World Economic forum/UN/WHO, foreign wars raised a bunch of questions about authority,truth and who really is in control and for what porpuses

it went too insane in such a short time

and you add AI to the mix, now i can't dismiss anything just because i think they sound ridiculous ,things that i would have thought absurd years ago happened,in reality

i still judge news/podcasts based on what i believe is honest and plausible and whats not, so Charlie being killed by a massive conspiracy involving the french government,israel,his own robot wife and tpusa friends ,likely didn't happened, and we must be careful to not get involved in the lies, its our personal responsibility, as well as call out the liars for the sake of reason and truth

but other crazy sounding news turned out to be real, i can't really blame people for believing this or the other,knowing a little more about the podcaster career(Megyn Kelly and Candance Owens in this case)

from reading this piece, helps a ton

i barely know Scott, just been following him a short time, my first impression is that he is smart and honest, if snarky at times, i hope im not mistaken 🤭because he writtes good history lessons

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Skeptical1's avatar

It’s called epistemic divorce/splintering. And is an inherent feature of Liberalism. Perhaps you are catching up now.

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