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Marko's avatar

Normies discuss politics and history the same way I discuss "great cars". I know little about cars except the basics. Imagine putting me on a podcast about cars and all I can do is say that "Uh, the '68 Mustang was the BEST" while real car guys roll their eyes.

Problem is that political discourse gets directed towards normies, so any normie who consumes the news thinks he knows what's happening. Not just normies, but midwits too. Midwits think they're experts. So DR guys like us look at them yammering about politics and we're rolling OUR eyes.

Sports is another area where there is a lot of normie engagement and a minority of people who actually know what's happening. I imagine that's why old sports scouts or coaches are so grumpy. They are always surrounded by sports know-it-alls.

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Gibsmee Mahmonie's avatar

Broke: "America was never racist or white supremacist. Here's a picture of Charlie Kirk, Malcolm X, MLK, JFK, RFK."

Woke: "America was founded in racism and white supremacy, and that's a bad thing."

Bespoke: "America was founded in racism and white supremacy." [gigachad.jpeg]

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wmj's avatar

Everything you said is true, but it is worth noting how far (relatively speaking) perceptions have come on this and related topics. Views that are now almost de rigeur for online rightists, especially for young rightist men, were twenty years ago found only in mailing-list xeroxed schizo newsletters with names like “Friends of the Eagle”.

Still a long way to go, but we’re making progress.

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Law Order's avatar

Boomers go absolutely insane when Vivek says the content of character MLK quote.

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Patrick Hunter's avatar

Our work isn't done until the average American sees Robert E Lee as his personal role model, and MLK as a communist rake.

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Neo Cavalier's avatar

It’s a good article, but I have to disagree with the notion that most normies lionize John Brown. I’ve never seen a normal person irl or even on the internet praise Brown. I doubt most even know who he is.

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Concerned Citizen's avatar

Shane Gillis is the spiritual leader and living embodiment of FanDuel America.

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Rory Bellows's avatar

I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. Gillis was cancelled like 7 years ago and is now pretty much enjoyed by anybody not on the far left. That’s a good thing if not an ideal state.

As Scott mentioned above, woke isn’t dead but it’s certainly come down a peg in the overall cultural zeitgeist, for lack of a better term.

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Concerned Citizen's avatar

Fair enough. I'm not necessarily anti-Gillis although his comedy sometimes descends to a level of vulgarity that is upsetting to my Ned Flanders sensibilities. I just see him as emblematic of the apolitical sports fan that "just wants to be left alone" to get drunk, make offensive jokes, and watch football.

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Rory Bellows's avatar

White wine spritzer…spritzer.spritzer…

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Concerned Citizen's avatar

In the future, please refrain from making Simpsons references beyond season 9.

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Rory Bellows's avatar

Damn I would’ve thought that came from well before that.

I guess I’ll have to settle for a nice glass of warm milk and a full frontal lobotomy as punishment.

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GK's avatar

JFK was murdered due to his stance against Israel. That omission is quite noticeable.

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LK Rurick's avatar

Fact check: false

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GK's avatar

Yawn..truth can only be suppressed for so long..

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Arm Day Enjoyer's avatar

Go listen to his episode with Thomas777 on that

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Acetic Romantic's avatar

The racial mongrelization has just sort of honed American identity on to a really idiotic stereotype of "freedom". John Brown was like Spartacus to people like this, he was a good guy because he fought people trying to take other's "freedom" away. Normies even have their own version of political incorrectness where it's like HOT TAKE but killing people who take away others right to exist is not good but maybe sometimes le necessary.

I honestly don't give a shit if these people support nominal right wing causes, they're still woke. Hate being surrounded by woke people even if there is some right wing deep state. Fuck that.

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Ditch Dr's avatar

I agree good article

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Hugo Knot's avatar

What are the hallmark dissident right historical/historiographical works? “Age of Entitlement” comes to mind - anything else?

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Vixth's avatar

Excellent post. We should continue to try and rewrite the normies view of history but more importantly, and easier, is to write the present from our perspective for future normies.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Everyone wants to be loved. So they lie to themselves, minute by minute,telling themselves kumbaya, so they will be loved in turn. It’s pretty sickening.

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