yeah but they differ in their politics. also bros are just apathetic, groypers are straight doomers who consistently follow for more blackpill overdoses
Oftentimes, an engaged minority is more important than the majority. Look at Missouri in the Civil War, for instance. The state remained in the Union, and most of its population supported the Union. Most Missouri troops fought in the Union Army. But it’s remembered as an effectively Confederate state, because the small minority of radical Bushwhackers fought so ferociously that they left their mark on the region and tied down thousands of northern troops throughout the entire Transmississippian Theater. The popular consensus during and after the war was that Missouri was a fire-eating Southern stronghold, even if the Bushwhackers never numbered more than a few hundred fighters at a time. And the stereotype was warranted, because Union troops stationed in Missouri could always count on those few Bushwhacker guerrillas giving them a very hard time.
Even if, say, 10% of white Gen Z men in the United States have hard-right, nationalist, etc. views, that’s a significant enough minority to characterize the wider demographic and earn them a reputation as a bloc that engages in a certain way. And that small minority can push the Overton window and shepherd the majority if they are loud and persistent enough, as we’re starting to see happen now.
Republicans keep forgetting how huge the AI take over of human jobs issue is. I feel a socialist like Mamdani could win nation wide if the idea is corporations can cause 50 percent unemployment among the young. Whoever grabs the AI stealing high paying White collar jobs idea will do very very well in 2028.
I don't think AI will take over white collar jobs. Companies (at least the ones I've been associated with) are careful about hiring, and everyone who's employed is normally very busy, even after given tools like AI. In fact AI clears up much of the light lifting that otherwise clogs up the workday, so now heavy lifting comes to the fore. There is always need for heavy lifting.
So if your job was entirely light lifting, then yes AI will take your job away. But those people are generally the unwashed masses, and it looks like they're all on public assistance anyway.
If you watch any YouTube golf, you’ll see plenty of these FanDeul types (I call them Portnoy’s Barstoolers). They aren’t based at all. They use a lot of fad-speak and love their black sports and entertainment heroes. NPC normies all the way. Sigh.
Bob Does Sports is the main one. There are others they collab with that are basically the same. Interestingly, there are the nominally Christian ones, too. But when they collaborate, the influence of the FanDueler types easily trumps the conservative aesthetic. Good Good, which is one of the biggest channels, features both of these archetypes. Over time, the Christian golfers have become more like the FanDuelers; it reveals just how difficult it is to resist the cultural norms (as well as the lure of money/fame) of our era.
Recently, Portnoy has started throwing his money into the YouTube golf space by hosting tournaments. It will only get worse now that he’s become one of the big money guys. It’s been intriguing to watch Elite Theory in action as YouTube golf has become more and more popular. You can’t help but notice that once big money locates a high potential consumer market, it invades the space and completely transforms it. It’s actually kind of gross. And really sad.
"This is a generation that is barely majority white."
A bit of a buried lede, but otherwise well-reasoned summary of the fractious generations of post-American polity.
The young IME are the most fractured, reflecting the over-arching disparity of Who We Are as a former nation in both demographic and "political" (for lack of better phrase) orientation.
The Based Z mythology is a copium and self-license to do nothing particularly novel, beyond their own rabid economic self-interest, particularly for my comrades in GenX, who enjoy punching both up and down while doing pretty much the same things as they proclaim to despise of those bookends of olds and youngs, but of course with that sort of punk-rocker edgy detachment and late-in-life sleeve tats and touch-of-grey beards we do so well.
Not to bash Generation too-small-to-matter and too-white-to be the Future is a Brown Female, as we are products of our time like all the rest. Our defining moment, I pray, is near, as opposed to past. But if we did miss it, pity the X for the Zyklon historians and their commie sisters will savage us in the AI central ministry of records worse than the Boomers.
Unless they just memory hole us and Pearl Jam Ten, which would be a shame. It's such a great album.
The Croc wearing Broccoli head dudes have been almost completely subverted by foids. Funny article, and pretty accurate. GK Chesterton Catholic gym bro’s exist probably as much as the trad Wifejaks (none)😆. We regressed highly during the Barry Obummer administration and he damn near reset the USA back to Jim Crowe era racial strife. I’ll never forgive Obummer for that. Until Zoomers quit worshipping foids like the golden calf, they’ll be nowhere as Based as they need to be. Repeal the 19th and down with the gynocracy.
His existence in America was a result of immigration policy that started in 65 and grew larger with each decade. You could see that culminating in the mid 00’s when the demographic numbers came closer and closer to reaching parity and one can also observe that as our numbers have gone lower the anti white rhetoric has gone up. It would not have mattered it was always going to go this way.
You assume that the GOP is offering anything appealing to right wing young men. All they offer 10 months into Trump's term is debt slavery, immigration and support of Israel.
Trump on Laura Ingraham telling her he knows what is good for MAGA better than anyone and to cheer the 600k Chinese student visas. This stuff is insulting and a joke, of course people would rather vote for somebody like Mamdani (who currently has better anti-establishment credentials than 2025 Trump).
As the country devolves into ethnic conflict most young men will form a political bloc, it won't be the largest in the country, but it will contain most of the masculinity.
You conflated a great deal of the data with broad “zoomer” trends. White men under 30 are most definitely not voting for leftist girl-bosses. Foreigners and women voted leftist. White men, once again, are the bulwark against insanity.
Where the fuck do you get the idea that we boomers are libretardS? You children are rather stupid. Btw, when the shit hits the fan, you might look up some old fucking boomers to teach you how to kill. Fucking kids.
Uhhh... I don't think septuagenarians are going to save anyone if the shit hits the fan. But the good news for you is that it's unlikely shit hits the fan!
"For those who don’t regularly read Highly Respected, FanDuel Americans are young men who are not woke. But they aren’t reactionaries hankering for a counter-revolution. They’re cool with many of the social changes–such as greater drug use, porn, sports gambling (obviously), etc.--that the Right derides."
This is 1000 percent correct. I would count myself in this number, though I'm 41 and I don't use Fanduel. This is why AV laws are extremely counterproductive, if you want the youth vote, especially the male youth vote.
"Bros are a non-existent presence at ICE protests, so this might not matter too much. But their actual views should throw cold water on the exaggerated image of Zoomer men."
This I think is somewhat more tentative. Many people (such as myself) who have had enough of the trad social agenda (which always seems to punish straight white men) are sick of gays, trans, feminists etc. but I think the disapproval of Trump's raids is overstated. Most of those who express such a view are probably nonwhite themselves, and so should never have been considered as reliable, or they're people who were open borders already anyway, or men who voted Kamala. As polls done last summer indicate, support for mass deportations is actually quite high and I can't believe that's all boomers, given how many of them still vote democrat.
I don't want to overstate the influence of...well...influencers...but some of this might be the Vons and Rogans of the world poisoning the well. Some of the more impressionable, less intelligent zoomers might actually think that now Rogan has gone back on a lot of what he's said, Trump's raids must be bad somehow because Rogan based. Von I know less about, but people considering Rogan a viable outlet for pro white or at least anti immigration advocacy should've seen this coming. He was counter signaling Trump years ago and talking about how hard working the whetbacks were, pushing the libertarian cringe he sometimes still pushes and used to dish out all the time. I don't half wonder if this wasn't the plan all along, funded by nefarious open borders NGOs/whoever to try and force an immigration pivot from Trump lest he or the party feel the pinch at the ballot box, possibly even with Musk's assistance. Another confounding factor is how many of the immigration doves among zoomers are not the same zoomers struggling with housing/economic woes who actually pay the price for the immigration, who cannot be popular among their fellow zoomers who have to live with the consequences of this reckless policy. This is a division among zoomers that should be exploited in further elections.
And I'll emphasize again, damn your ridiculous studies trying to link normal heterosexual gooning proclivities to some phucked up trans sheeyat, or trying to claim smoking weed leaves you incurably insane. If you actually care about making America whiter (and it's highly doubtful at this point that many trad boys actually do) this strategy is suicidal. Not to mention the misery it creates for white incels whose only sexual outlet often is watching attractive men and women have sex from a massive porn catalog that (thanks to AV laws) will be curtailed to physical DVD purchases (however they can do that) and some channels on Telegram. With the violent behavior of blacks which is permitted, to deny that is just straight up evil.
Young FanDuel Americans are natural slaves. They won’t really have a choice of their candidate they’ll have to chose between diverse Zohran types that allow some hedonism in exchange for wokeness or they’ll have to between based Trads. Theres going to be no 3rd option and it’s pretty clear they’ll go in the trad direction, especially once the millennials look like fools once they are out of their fertile window.
At least we can rely on the sensitive young men vote!
I do see a lot of Zoomer men being non woke, but it would also be good to note or to see the stats. Of Zoomer men, how much does the nonehite percentage dilute the white percentage? Most Gen Z guys I see outside of church groups and political groups are just non political at all. Or they don’t show up to vote
I would think White men and women, but especially men under age 35 which would be younger millenials and Gen Z would be tired of being crapped on for there race. The economy is a different matter, but they are barely a majority, so they would have to be more race conscious.
I'm not fond of being filed away. I was born in the middle of the boomer years. '55' The "Y" in the road politically came prior to my being able to vote. The "Y" was created by the Vietnam draft. The left of the "Y" was college deferred or preference deferred with a lawyer.
I veered to the right direction of the "Y" of, can't afford college, or teachers wanted me to die in Vietnam by getting drafted.
Left or Right are literal directions and not political affiliations.
The 2 literal political parties go in this direction. I am an American citizen voter for the Constitutional Republic of the United States, and the other direction is the Lazy Leftist Elitist Slavers.
My government has a set of written laws, which are among the most liberal in the world's history, with a liberal framework that places limits on individual freedom. This framework is founded on the principles of truth, respect, and the preservation of human life.
The Lazy Leftist Elitist Slaver's direction is entirely based on their own power and wealth. This direction was once known as serfdom.
Based Zoomer here. Young men I know who are politically engaged are very far right. Everyone else is sports betting.
Even the "bros" their political engagement is mostly about proving that theyre "in the know" But they ultimately just care about their fun
yeah but they differ in their politics. also bros are just apathetic, groypers are straight doomers who consistently follow for more blackpill overdoses
Groypers want to be told that all women hate you and are evil. It’s why I don’t watch AF
None of these describe groypers at all. Have you people ever even watched more than a clip?
A lot of that has to do with socioeconomic class and the crowd you hang around imho
"These young people they like pat buchanan"-DJT
Oftentimes, an engaged minority is more important than the majority. Look at Missouri in the Civil War, for instance. The state remained in the Union, and most of its population supported the Union. Most Missouri troops fought in the Union Army. But it’s remembered as an effectively Confederate state, because the small minority of radical Bushwhackers fought so ferociously that they left their mark on the region and tied down thousands of northern troops throughout the entire Transmississippian Theater. The popular consensus during and after the war was that Missouri was a fire-eating Southern stronghold, even if the Bushwhackers never numbered more than a few hundred fighters at a time. And the stereotype was warranted, because Union troops stationed in Missouri could always count on those few Bushwhacker guerrillas giving them a very hard time.
Even if, say, 10% of white Gen Z men in the United States have hard-right, nationalist, etc. views, that’s a significant enough minority to characterize the wider demographic and earn them a reputation as a bloc that engages in a certain way. And that small minority can push the Overton window and shepherd the majority if they are loud and persistent enough, as we’re starting to see happen now.
Republicans keep forgetting how huge the AI take over of human jobs issue is. I feel a socialist like Mamdani could win nation wide if the idea is corporations can cause 50 percent unemployment among the young. Whoever grabs the AI stealing high paying White collar jobs idea will do very very well in 2028.
I don't think AI will take over white collar jobs. Companies (at least the ones I've been associated with) are careful about hiring, and everyone who's employed is normally very busy, even after given tools like AI. In fact AI clears up much of the light lifting that otherwise clogs up the workday, so now heavy lifting comes to the fore. There is always need for heavy lifting.
So if your job was entirely light lifting, then yes AI will take your job away. But those people are generally the unwashed masses, and it looks like they're all on public assistance anyway.
If you watch any YouTube golf, you’ll see plenty of these FanDeul types (I call them Portnoy’s Barstoolers). They aren’t based at all. They use a lot of fad-speak and love their black sports and entertainment heroes. NPC normies all the way. Sigh.
Can you give me some channels/names so I can see for myself
Bob Does Sports is the main one. There are others they collab with that are basically the same. Interestingly, there are the nominally Christian ones, too. But when they collaborate, the influence of the FanDueler types easily trumps the conservative aesthetic. Good Good, which is one of the biggest channels, features both of these archetypes. Over time, the Christian golfers have become more like the FanDuelers; it reveals just how difficult it is to resist the cultural norms (as well as the lure of money/fame) of our era.
Recently, Portnoy has started throwing his money into the YouTube golf space by hosting tournaments. It will only get worse now that he’s become one of the big money guys. It’s been intriguing to watch Elite Theory in action as YouTube golf has become more and more popular. You can’t help but notice that once big money locates a high potential consumer market, it invades the space and completely transforms it. It’s actually kind of gross. And really sad.
Most young men's political engagement begins and ends with Instagram reels memes.
"This is a generation that is barely majority white."
A bit of a buried lede, but otherwise well-reasoned summary of the fractious generations of post-American polity.
The young IME are the most fractured, reflecting the over-arching disparity of Who We Are as a former nation in both demographic and "political" (for lack of better phrase) orientation.
The Based Z mythology is a copium and self-license to do nothing particularly novel, beyond their own rabid economic self-interest, particularly for my comrades in GenX, who enjoy punching both up and down while doing pretty much the same things as they proclaim to despise of those bookends of olds and youngs, but of course with that sort of punk-rocker edgy detachment and late-in-life sleeve tats and touch-of-grey beards we do so well.
Not to bash Generation too-small-to-matter and too-white-to be the Future is a Brown Female, as we are products of our time like all the rest. Our defining moment, I pray, is near, as opposed to past. But if we did miss it, pity the X for the Zyklon historians and their commie sisters will savage us in the AI central ministry of records worse than the Boomers.
Unless they just memory hole us and Pearl Jam Ten, which would be a shame. It's such a great album.
The Croc wearing Broccoli head dudes have been almost completely subverted by foids. Funny article, and pretty accurate. GK Chesterton Catholic gym bro’s exist probably as much as the trad Wifejaks (none)😆. We regressed highly during the Barry Obummer administration and he damn near reset the USA back to Jim Crowe era racial strife. I’ll never forgive Obummer for that. Until Zoomers quit worshipping foids like the golden calf, they’ll be nowhere as Based as they need to be. Repeal the 19th and down with the gynocracy.
His existence in America was a result of immigration policy that started in 65 and grew larger with each decade. You could see that culminating in the mid 00’s when the demographic numbers came closer and closer to reaching parity and one can also observe that as our numbers have gone lower the anti white rhetoric has gone up. It would not have mattered it was always going to go this way.
You assume that the GOP is offering anything appealing to right wing young men. All they offer 10 months into Trump's term is debt slavery, immigration and support of Israel.
Trump on Laura Ingraham telling her he knows what is good for MAGA better than anyone and to cheer the 600k Chinese student visas. This stuff is insulting and a joke, of course people would rather vote for somebody like Mamdani (who currently has better anti-establishment credentials than 2025 Trump).
As the country devolves into ethnic conflict most young men will form a political bloc, it won't be the largest in the country, but it will contain most of the masculinity.
You conflated a great deal of the data with broad “zoomer” trends. White men under 30 are most definitely not voting for leftist girl-bosses. Foreigners and women voted leftist. White men, once again, are the bulwark against insanity.
Where the fuck do you get the idea that we boomers are libretardS? You children are rather stupid. Btw, when the shit hits the fan, you might look up some old fucking boomers to teach you how to kill. Fucking kids.
Uhhh... I don't think septuagenarians are going to save anyone if the shit hits the fan. But the good news for you is that it's unlikely shit hits the fan!
By the way, where do you get to call yourself “ highly respected”?
Some old men have short bursts of real power.
I didn’t realize I was old. Holy fuck. I’m going to the range.
I dont live in Virginia but even i would have voted for Spanberger.
This was my thought. I bet a different republican would have done a lot better.
What? Why? She portrays a complete bore
Cmon her opponent looked like a crackhead.
No she didn’t. Ffs she served under Youngkin didn’t she?
"For those who don’t regularly read Highly Respected, FanDuel Americans are young men who are not woke. But they aren’t reactionaries hankering for a counter-revolution. They’re cool with many of the social changes–such as greater drug use, porn, sports gambling (obviously), etc.--that the Right derides."
This is 1000 percent correct. I would count myself in this number, though I'm 41 and I don't use Fanduel. This is why AV laws are extremely counterproductive, if you want the youth vote, especially the male youth vote.
"Bros are a non-existent presence at ICE protests, so this might not matter too much. But their actual views should throw cold water on the exaggerated image of Zoomer men."
This I think is somewhat more tentative. Many people (such as myself) who have had enough of the trad social agenda (which always seems to punish straight white men) are sick of gays, trans, feminists etc. but I think the disapproval of Trump's raids is overstated. Most of those who express such a view are probably nonwhite themselves, and so should never have been considered as reliable, or they're people who were open borders already anyway, or men who voted Kamala. As polls done last summer indicate, support for mass deportations is actually quite high and I can't believe that's all boomers, given how many of them still vote democrat.
I don't want to overstate the influence of...well...influencers...but some of this might be the Vons and Rogans of the world poisoning the well. Some of the more impressionable, less intelligent zoomers might actually think that now Rogan has gone back on a lot of what he's said, Trump's raids must be bad somehow because Rogan based. Von I know less about, but people considering Rogan a viable outlet for pro white or at least anti immigration advocacy should've seen this coming. He was counter signaling Trump years ago and talking about how hard working the whetbacks were, pushing the libertarian cringe he sometimes still pushes and used to dish out all the time. I don't half wonder if this wasn't the plan all along, funded by nefarious open borders NGOs/whoever to try and force an immigration pivot from Trump lest he or the party feel the pinch at the ballot box, possibly even with Musk's assistance. Another confounding factor is how many of the immigration doves among zoomers are not the same zoomers struggling with housing/economic woes who actually pay the price for the immigration, who cannot be popular among their fellow zoomers who have to live with the consequences of this reckless policy. This is a division among zoomers that should be exploited in further elections.
And I'll emphasize again, damn your ridiculous studies trying to link normal heterosexual gooning proclivities to some phucked up trans sheeyat, or trying to claim smoking weed leaves you incurably insane. If you actually care about making America whiter (and it's highly doubtful at this point that many trad boys actually do) this strategy is suicidal. Not to mention the misery it creates for white incels whose only sexual outlet often is watching attractive men and women have sex from a massive porn catalog that (thanks to AV laws) will be curtailed to physical DVD purchases (however they can do that) and some channels on Telegram. With the violent behavior of blacks which is permitted, to deny that is just straight up evil.
Young FanDuel Americans are natural slaves. They won’t really have a choice of their candidate they’ll have to chose between diverse Zohran types that allow some hedonism in exchange for wokeness or they’ll have to between based Trads. Theres going to be no 3rd option and it’s pretty clear they’ll go in the trad direction, especially once the millennials look like fools once they are out of their fertile window.
At least we can rely on the sensitive young men vote!
I do see a lot of Zoomer men being non woke, but it would also be good to note or to see the stats. Of Zoomer men, how much does the nonehite percentage dilute the white percentage? Most Gen Z guys I see outside of church groups and political groups are just non political at all. Or they don’t show up to vote
I would think White men and women, but especially men under age 35 which would be younger millenials and Gen Z would be tired of being crapped on for there race. The economy is a different matter, but they are barely a majority, so they would have to be more race conscious.
I'm not fond of being filed away. I was born in the middle of the boomer years. '55' The "Y" in the road politically came prior to my being able to vote. The "Y" was created by the Vietnam draft. The left of the "Y" was college deferred or preference deferred with a lawyer.
I veered to the right direction of the "Y" of, can't afford college, or teachers wanted me to die in Vietnam by getting drafted.
Left or Right are literal directions and not political affiliations.
The 2 literal political parties go in this direction. I am an American citizen voter for the Constitutional Republic of the United States, and the other direction is the Lazy Leftist Elitist Slavers.
My government has a set of written laws, which are among the most liberal in the world's history, with a liberal framework that places limits on individual freedom. This framework is founded on the principles of truth, respect, and the preservation of human life.
The Lazy Leftist Elitist Slaver's direction is entirely based on their own power and wealth. This direction was once known as serfdom.
Pick your poison.