We don’t have to speculate about this, there are plenty of current societies in which state institutions have lost or never had broad popular legitimacy. That dynamic defines much of Latin America. In all those countries the state is still the biggest, baddest kid on the block, capable of making an example of someone and exerting control in core areas, but simultaneously gangs, patronage networks, and vigilantism are both much more common than in America and stretch much higher into the “respectable” class hierarchy.
You’re correct ofc that many smug dismissals from rightists are cope, but incorrect I think to suggest losing legitimacy has no significant effect on state control.
Well it depends on WHO it loses legitimacy among. Internet people doesn't quite matter and if their real-world actions still give legitimacy to these institutions, then their comments on the matter don't matter as much
We don’t have to speculate about this, there are plenty of current societies in which state institutions have lost or never had broad popular legitimacy. That dynamic defines much of Latin America. In all those countries the state is still the biggest, baddest kid on the block, capable of making an example of someone and exerting control in core areas, but simultaneously gangs, patronage networks, and vigilantism are both much more common than in America and stretch much higher into the “respectable” class hierarchy.
You’re correct ofc that many smug dismissals from rightists are cope, but incorrect I think to suggest losing legitimacy has no significant effect on state control.
Well it depends on WHO it loses legitimacy among. Internet people doesn't quite matter and if their real-world actions still give legitimacy to these institutions, then their comments on the matter don't matter as much
The main reason this is retarded is because zero effort has been made to take over or eliminate the institutions for nearly 60 years.