It really is astounding how retarded everyone on the right who entertains anti-Trumpism is. Imagine if you were broke, homeless, and unemployed and some charitable wealthy man decides to give you a million dollars. Then, after you’re on your feet, you condemn that man at every turn because he didn’t give you a billion dollars. That’s the anti-Trump right in a nutshell.
Trump has a lineup of potential MAGA successors that are adequate to pass the torch too, unlike in the first term. The GOP will never return to the dismal Obama era status quo. You’re a walking anachronism.
I’m assuming you didn’t read the article I posted then, as it details GOP decline.
You look at the options, and on succession it all falls apart:
Marco Rubio is a hypocrite and would be destroyed: He based his foreign policy on backing Ukraine, then reversed because of his boss. No base support at all.
Vance is even worse in this regard: He accurately called Trump and his policies “Fascist scum”, and after the Minneapolis executions I don’t disagree with that.
Add to the lack of principles calling a legal gun owner a “domestic terrorist”, and after a while not even the right can get behind his lack of principles. He’s lost.
And the other right figures are leaving Trump in his decline: Green, Massie, e.t.c.
You know what “Obama” Bush did that today's Gop couldn’t. Two terms in a row.
I’m sure the latest Trump insanity is cheered on by you. But in elections, it loses.
And ultimately, political parties are about winning elections. So principles are in.
Trump won the largest electoral college victory for Republicans since 1988. The most recent election victory for Trump was the largest Republican victory since the late 1980s. The Bush establishment wing lost because they refused to focus on the issues that matter like immigration, crime, DEI/race communism, and failing to address populist economic concerns. The establishment country club Republican Party is dead. Alex Pretti and Renee Good are domestic terrorists and violent criminals. They both physically attacked law enforcement and tried to kill them. Renee Good tried to run over law enforcement, and Alex Pretti physically attacked law enforcement for weeks. He can be seen in older videos attacking them and then physically impeding law enforcement while in possession of a firearm which are all major violent crimes. I am not surprised you support violent criminal domestic terrorists like Pretti and Good since your faction also supports releasing thousands of repeat violent offenders on bond (including repeat violent offenders who commit murder) to have them murder thousands of Americans every year. The old Bush GOP and current Democratic Party ignores these attacks by repeat violent offenders out on bond because the killers per capita are overwhelmingly black. Trump actually highlighted these victims like Iryna Zarutska. The most recent electoral college defeat for the Democtratic was their largest defeat in the electoral college since 1988. The American people are tired of the far left extremism of the Democratic party on crime, immigration, and race communism/DEI. Far left extremists like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Mamdani have taken over the Democratic party. Even Obama and Clinton are backtracking now on immigration because they know how extreme their far left AOC controlled base has become.
Trump won the largest electoral college victory for Republicans since 1988. The most recent election victory for Trump was the largest Republican victory since the late 1980s. The Bush establishment wing lost because they refused to focus on the issues that matter like immigration, crime, DEI/race communism, and failing to address populist economic concerns. The establishment Romney/Bush country club Republican Party is dead. Alex Pretti and Renee Good are domestic terrorists and violent criminals. They both physically attacked law enforcement and tried to kill them. Renee Good tried to run over law enforcement, and Alex Pretti physically attacked law enforcement for weeks. He can be seen in older videos attacking them and then physically impeding law enforcement while in possession of a firearm which are all major violent crimes. I am not surprised you support violent criminal domestic terrorists like Pretti and Good since your faction also supports releasing thousands of repeat violent offenders on bond (including repeat violent offenders who commit murder) to have them murder thousands of Americans every year. The old Bush GOP and current Democratic Party ignores these attacks by repeat violent offenders out on bond because the killers per capita are overwhelmingly black. Trump actually highlighted these victims like Iryna Zarutska. The most recent electoral college defeat for the Democtratic party was their largest defeat in the electoral college since 1988. The American people are tired of the far left extremism of the Democratic party on crime, immigration, and race communism/DEI. Far left extremists like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Mamdani have taken over the Democratic party. Even Obama and Clinton are backtracking now on immigration because they know how extreme their far left AOC controlled base has become.
If you have a non-existent GOP, you end up with New England cities and culture. A wasteland for anyone with right wing sensibilities. They will trans your kids, let minorities abuse you, and tax you to death. The Judges are no help. No one will stick up for you without political power.
Ok to play devil's advocate. New England states are the Whitest in the country. So are demographics destiny ? Does policy matter too not just demographics ?
You talk about crime but these states rank as the safest with the highest quality of life.
Vermont is wonderful place to live if you have money and aren't raising a family. Its hard to start a life in these states but they a great place to retire if you like the snow. The dem policies are leading to the demographic change.
I know when it comes to social issues and culture it is quite leftist in New England, however Northern New England cities (New Hampshire and Maine cities) are the second most safest cities in the whole US behind only North Idaho and Northwest Montana cities.
You are correct. It's because of the demographics though. The democrats are trying to destroy those demographics through refugee settlement. Also, every young person leaves for more opportunity. The average age is also very high in those places leading to less crime. There are somewhat better parties in New Hampshire and Maine though. GOP governors in NH and Susan Collins in Maine.
I get what you’re saying 100%. However as someone who lives in a metro area in the South, and has extended family that works in healthcare in Maine/New Hampshire, it is amazing not having to worry about being carjacked or robbed whenever I visit them. The worst crime they experience in northern New England is public intoxication after people leave a sports bar after a big game. The four places I have visited in the US that feel like absolute paradise are northern New England (visit family), North Idaho, Northwest Montana (visit glacier national park and Kalispell), and Northwest Wyoming (visit Jackson, Grand Teton, Yellowstone area). 100% going to retire in one of those places one day. On your last point the libertarian party has joined forces with the Republican Party in New Hampshire because New Hampshire libertarians are mises style Right libertarians. One of their leaders was on Auron McIntyre’s show and he admitted that libertarianism can only work with stable demographics.
It is nice up there. Basically we are trying to keep those people from ruining what they have. As a great man once tweeted “I’m just trying to keep the world from killing itself!”
Anyone in the “online” right can go pick up a petition to run for an office in their local municipality. The GOP has never and will never have your best interest at heart. We need to take control of our own destinies and build a network of like minded peoples in positions of power.
"And we do that by foregoing the one vehicle we have for getting into power. Instead, we're gonna run for local school board as explicit white nationalists and build national power this way"
So a different individual, named Scott Greer, was fired from the Daily Caller for writing White Supremacist content in Radix Journal under a pseudonym.
His fantasies of capturing the Grand Old Party under his brand of evil is as dead as his career.
Trump’s insanity has tanked GOP support in nearly every voting group (suburbs, hispanics, etc).
If Conservatism don’t return to a party of principles, there won't be much of a party left anymore.
Your local GOP and national GOP are far different entities. There are a multitude of offices in local communities that control budgets, write laws, coordinate public works projects, etc. These are real tangible things that help communities and drive culture. Only a retard would run for the school board as an “explicit white nationalist.” Nuance is a powerful tool. We get out of this by actually doing things. Unfortunately speaking into the void about a power structure that has stabbed its constituents in the back every chance it has gotten is not going to cut it.
We're not going to reverse our situation by litigating the budgets of small town Oklahoma. The complaint against the GOP is that they do nothing about the big issues we care about so we're now going to... focus entirely on the local matters that also don't deal with the big issues we care about. It's great to get involved locally, but to think of this as an alternative to national politics is absurd. A small town can be swamped by immigrants placed there by the national government. The only vehicle for national politics is the GOP.
If the GOP continues to drag its feet and self-sabotage, it’s not going to matter. This has been their M.O. for most young people’s living memory. These young conservative types don’t share a connection to the GOP like previous generations. They answer to the donor class, and as long as the checks keep coming in, the status quo will remain unchanged. Decoupling the GOP from corporate interests is never going to happen. I’m not anti-corporation, but their interests rarely coincide with the interests of the general public. Also, this most likely isn’t a tenable option moving forward, but political parties have died and new ones have arisen throughout history. It hasn’t happened in over a century, but it has happened in the United States before.
That’s real life. The vast majority of people are only capable of wielding political influence within their peer group and/or community. It’s about establishing a foundation that can be expanded upon. Maybe having municipal political experience would be beneficial if seeking a state office and from there a national office. Maybe the only way to know how power actually works is to participate within power structures. DC only does what is best for real Americans when they absolutely have to, and they do so begrudgingly. The current state of the GOP isn’t interested in fighting the battles that need to be fought on the national level. The last year and a half would have been the time to do it. They will not have a mandate like the one the 24 election gave them ever again.
The Faustian bargain the GOP made with Trump is that he has a fanbase that is loyal to him and only him. It is sizable and low propensity — a spectacle-obsessed crowd that just likes Trump and only Trump, and they like the entertainment he provides.
The issue is that these people are low propensity and do not vote in midterms or other elections. They can be used against you, and it is unclear if they will stay with the party after Trump. The issue, however, is that this sort of “unwashed masses” coalition turned off more wonkish, ideological voters who tend to vote in midterms and gubernatorial races.
IIRC Democrats in the Trump era did amazingly well at the local and state level, while the Republicans have underperformed every time Trump wasn’t on the ballot. In 2022 the democrats technically lost seats, but it was basically nothing — the seats they lost were in moderate purple districts to moderate Republicans, and there were no big upsets. In my home state of Michigan the local GOP in the Trump era is not doinggood. Trumpian clownshows struggling to entertain and turnout rural hicks have plagued the party. It has gotten so bad that the Michigan GOP got evicted from their office space and I think got a car repossessed. You see this trend Kentucky got a democrat governor, Virginia is very blue. Glen Youngkin was not a Trumpian candidate and MAGA hated him well he is gone. You see this with state legislators all across the country.
This is arguably because of the Dobbs decision, but it could also be that Trump didn’t care about these local races as much, fought with the GOP on candidates, or endorsed bad candidates with a host of character flaws, like Herschel Walker in Georgia. If you ask these people, sometimes they will rattle off some talking points about wokeness or the economy, but those aren’t their real reasons for supporting Trump — they’re their excuses for supporting him.
Anyway, Scott recently said that the thing with Trump is that our ideas (by that he means white identity, immigration restriction, and cultural conservatism) are not popular. They clash with the individualist, Enlightenment liberalism and “folk libertarianism” (a term Scott coined) of modern America. So Trump allows us to launder our politics through an alternative way, because a policy wonk is more likely to be educated and have the sort of “programming” (I know this is a loaded term, but it works for our purposes) against white identity, thinking that it is fake because Noel Ignatiev said so.
Meanwhile, a Trump loyalist who just wants to see him do that stupid dance to “YMCA” doesn’t care if Trump’s president pro tempore said “white is right” ten years ago. This is similar to the gambit Netanyahu made with the Haredi in Israel.
Like we all know that infamous Chuck Schumer quote that For every blue-collar Democrat we lose…we will pick up two…college-educated Republicans. We laugh now,but the thinking was sound given the information at the time. Hillary played it safe and tried to maximize her turnout among reliable voters because, for example, the Romney–Obama election was actually quite close, and a lot of the Obama voters from the first election who voted to spite Bush didn’t show up again. Hillary didn’t bank on a personally motivated Trump fandom.
Her strategy arguably worked in some ways. For example, she was the first Democrat in God knows how long to win Orange County, a massive Republican enclave, because those wealthy California conservatives didn’t like the low-class energy of Trumpism.
I have also warned that the Trumpist coalition was not sustainable. I might go into more detail on this later but Trump just promised too many things to too many people and now those people want what they voted for.
Desperate coping to think that Trump is some sort of pipeline for Online Right ideas. The Trump administration doesn't get their ideas from the Online Right - they lie and say whatever will hype up their easily excitable goyish base, and then get all their actual policy ideas from the entrenched donor class. War with Iran for Mirian Adelson, no mass deportations for Big Agriculture, and AI regulation moratorium for Little Tech. Trump's social media team dangles memes and talking points to entertain the extremely online portion of their base, but the "poasters" are very much NOT in control.
If you believe that, then Online Right views have zero relevance to the American public and is nothing more than a niche internet culture without any real-world presence.
There are of course competing elements within Trumpism. The idea we need to take our ball and go home to our own independent movement would be a failure. See the rest of the article about Cville and the lack of money, mass following, and organizational ability on the Online Right's part.
Basically, yes. Until Online Right ideas capture a big enough chunk of the population or a few billionaires, there is no actual avenue to real power, barring a black swan event. Obviously people should be involved in whatever their local politics are, but acting like the Zionist-captured, Boomer-dominated GOP is some sort of great avenue for success is delusional. The Epstein files are a good example of how Trump "works for" anonymous Twitter posters (LOL). He runs on the issue, raises it a ton to rile up his base of idiot peasants. Then once elected, he does some goofy press release where a bunch of influences are handed fake file packs. Then he spends several months attacking and alienating the very conspiracy theorist base that he riled up, working to cover it up for his Zionist donor owners, before finally releasing the files. Now masses of normies are "woken up" to the "fact" that we are run by Satanic cannibal pedophiles (Pizzagate is basically mainstream among under 30 normies, especially the women), but Trump and the GOP are the ones holding the bag! All this to say that Trump is NOT your guy. Honest question: if Trump disappeared tomorrow, what political option or strategy would you endorse? It seems like you only support Trump because you've convinced yourself that there are no other options.
Thanks for replying btw, despite my comments I do actually like your articles.
The same way that just about any historical vanguardist movement has acted: spread ideas through memes and propaganda, network with like-minded people, and acquire influence. Make the ideas appealing. The GOP is a sinking ship, and tying your fortunes to it is a bad move. Yes, people should get involved with it in as much as it can get them power and influence, but we should have no loyalty to it. Trump's best buddies like Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham are THE enemies of the American people.
I think it will be a gradual, generational change. Boomers will not save us. Trump played his part, but now he is no longer pushing the envelope; people like Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson are. But at the end of the day there is no easy answer, because we are in a desperate situation.
is Musk a big enough billionaire? Or is he not in tune with your version of the right? There are currently two dominant ideologies/parties in this country. Like it or not, all power runs through them. You/we have to decide which one will support or endorse our beliefs and political desires. It is what it is. No small movement is going to coalesce into a big movement at this point in history. Especially not with the internet, which by its nature, creates thousands of different factions ideologically.
I know that he is not perfect, there have been some major disappointments, and he is taking the middle road between appeasing the base and appeasing the donors however: illegal immigration through the Southern border has dropped to its lowest level since 1970, the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division has been gutted, disparate impact liability is no longer government policy, ICE was conducting terror raids on sanctuary cities before Pretti/Good, the EEOC is aggressively soliciting complaints about anti-white discrimination in the workplace, refugee admissions have been paused except for white South Africans, the foreign born population is declining for the first time since 1970, training of new border patrol agents has increased to all time highs, American cities are being patrolled by federal anti-crime taskforces and arresting thousands of criminals, the State Department has formal plans to create an Office of Remigration, the US has experienced the largest single-year drop in murder rate in recorded history, new Indian student enrollment is down 75% in just a year, the Treasury Department is targeting the funding of Antifa, which has been designated a terror network and is cut off from its traditional funding mechanisms, DHS is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on football field-sized detention centers in multiple states, and legal immigration is on track to decline by as much as 1/2 by the end of Trump’s term
The 2024 election was a very narrow race slanted by lies (remember “Insurance IVF”, “Platinum Plan” when Trump promised to personally promote diversity training and equity).
The Republican lead is narrow, districts won by twenty points have flipped.
And those lies, such as promising to only deport the “worst of the worst”, then doing the opposite, have demolished every minute gain in 2024 the Gop was able to claim:
This is true: " the Online Right has no mass following, money, or organizational ability."
So why should the GOP comply? It has made its position very clear over a decade now. Trump is great - they love Trump, and he does what Speaker Johnson and Majority Leader Thune want. He does not do what even Bannon wants. He won't do what "The Online Right" wants.
This is also true: "the Online Right’s fortunes are tied to Trump.", and Trump will not be the president, in just a little over 1,000 days. (1066 to be precise as. of Feb 19, 2026).
That time ago was March 23rd, 2023 - which wasn't so long ago. That should give us some perspective on how it isn't that far away that Trump won't be the president.
What comes next for the GOP and the Online Right's use of it 'as a tool'? Will it get more of a mass following, more money, and more organizational ability? Will JD Vance enjoy more seething about his wife Usha being ethnically Indian, and his children being considered racially inferior and less American by the luminaries of the Online Right? Perhaps Marco Rubio will embrace his conquistador and come out in a full throated endorsement of White American self determination?
Neither of these outcomes seem particularly likely.
I want to play Devil's advocate. I talked about this in a reply to another comment but compare the South to the North East.
The GOP dominate the south yet the numbers for quality of life such as obesity, life expectancy,drug use and crime are awful. I am aware of the fact this is made worse by Blacks however even among Whites these numbers are worst then in New England where the democrats have a monopoly on power. To be fair it tends to be moderate democrats but still.
The idea the GOP are a thin red line preventing a third world anti White tyranny state is fear mongering and we need to hold the gop to account on their problems.
Also Scott is getting mad at further right more pro White factions doing the same thing Trump did. You praise Trump for rocking the boat, calling out the establishment and party leadership why is Casey Putsch criticizing Trump the end of the world ?
The great control is Idaho. Idaho’s governance is extremely right wing. Idaho doesn’t have the problems of the southern Republican states from a demographic standpoint and it’s consistently ranked by U.S. News & World Report as one of the three best states to live in across all metrics every single year in the rankings. Another Republican state in Utah without the same demographic problems that southern Republican states have is consistently ranked number one in the rankings. New Hampshire, which has a republican governor and republican legislature right now is ranked number two, and Nebraska is in the top five as well. Policy matters to some extent however in the end demographics is destiny. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings
There is another option. Move to Mexico. There aren't as many whites, sure but many whites aren't your friend and Mexico is more demographically stable and will continue to be so and it's actually more free than America which will just become progressively less free over time.
Greer's certainly right that the online sexless trad boys should stop attacking Trump and simping for spics. But he conflates that with defending the GOP, who are indifferent to the fate of whites (especially poor ones) and hate low status men as much as any white woman (probably because they all have money and they want to make sure no creepy incels try to raid their harems).
The problem is we didn’t dump Trump. He dumped us and torched his entire second term barely 6 months in by running cover for Jeffery fucking Epstein.
All of the other stuff (wall, deportation numbers, etc) could be sort of excused as politics as usual. But not releasing everything on Epstein was the worst move he could make. In a way, the chief reason people voted for Donald Trump in 2016 was to do stuff like releasing the Epstein files.
Our political fortunes aren’t tied to him. He’s been great, indeed incredible beyond anyone’s wildest dreams if they’re being honest. But he can be discarded and replaced relatively quickly.
It sucks that this Epstein shit is what he decided to sacrifice his legacy on, but thems the brakes. Time to move on. We’ll be ok.
One of the fundamental divides of the so-called Right is the "system can be saved" vs. "the system cannot". Unlike the Left, the Right has a strong contingent of normal and serious people who pretty much want monarchism or strongman rule to replace Liberal Democracy. Those that support Trump are Democracy enjoyers and those that have abandoned him are strongman enjoyers. Scott Greer is definitely in the Democracy enjoyer camp.
I admit I have a foot in the strongman camp, and I don't believe we can vote our way out of a long, slow decline. I think Scott will be validated if one of Trump's acolytes wins in 2028, and maybe there's hope for the USA and Democracy after all, but if we swing back to Pelosi-McConnellism post-Trump than I am validated.
We are never going back to Pelosi-McConnellism post-Trump I wish people would stop fucking saying that because it's a shameless fear mongering tactic.
The support is not there. The neolib neocon dynamic was popular. Reagan won commanding majority. Cliton won a solid majority Bush won the popular vote as did Obama.
The idea that no one liked it and it was forced on us ! Is internet age mythology because the people who liked it and felt served by it are old or dead now and were regular people not represented by political theorist and online dissidents.
I blame the voters as much as anyone else, but that's the problem isn't it. "Being popular" usually means a thing is dangled in front of the hoi-polloi and they accept it as the great thing. Most people are not very curious, and only have enough time and energy to be focused on one or 2 things, often poorly. The rest, they leave to "experts".
F-150s are "popular" not because they've passed some popular litmus test. Neither is Taylor Swift nor the NFL. Coca-Cola is just sugary fizzy water. The GOP rabble will fall in love with whichever suit is put in front of them...they loved Bush, loved McCain, pretended to love Romney, and loved Trump. When Rubio gets the nod in 2028, they will love him. If the reanimated corpse of Bob Dole gets the nod, they will love him.
I'm saying it's most certainly "forced on us", and I would rather not validate the rotten system by "voting our way out of it".
It really is astounding how retarded everyone on the right who entertains anti-Trumpism is. Imagine if you were broke, homeless, and unemployed and some charitable wealthy man decides to give you a million dollars. Then, after you’re on your feet, you condemn that man at every turn because he didn’t give you a billion dollars. That’s the anti-Trump right in a nutshell.
So he isn't losing Conservatives millions in broken promises and tanking GOP credibility at the same time:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-losing-ground-with-voters-who-powered-his-2024-gains-10811176
If anything, he makes it nearly impossible for successors due to the trust the GOP spent decades building being broken for fleeting short-term gains.
He loses the free-speech crowd through FCC censorship, after promising to support it.
He alienates anyone and everyone normal with anti-vaccine actions that kills people.
And for what exactly? His favorability is and has been much lower than Biden’s ever was.
The “anti-Trump” right is the “pro-Principles” side, and given history is the only “pro-winning” option the current GOP has.
Trump has a lineup of potential MAGA successors that are adequate to pass the torch too, unlike in the first term. The GOP will never return to the dismal Obama era status quo. You’re a walking anachronism.
I’m assuming you didn’t read the article I posted then, as it details GOP decline.
You look at the options, and on succession it all falls apart:
Marco Rubio is a hypocrite and would be destroyed: He based his foreign policy on backing Ukraine, then reversed because of his boss. No base support at all.
Vance is even worse in this regard: He accurately called Trump and his policies “Fascist scum”, and after the Minneapolis executions I don’t disagree with that.
Add to the lack of principles calling a legal gun owner a “domestic terrorist”, and after a while not even the right can get behind his lack of principles. He’s lost.
And the other right figures are leaving Trump in his decline: Green, Massie, e.t.c.
You know what “Obama” Bush did that today's Gop couldn’t. Two terms in a row.
I’m sure the latest Trump insanity is cheered on by you. But in elections, it loses.
And ultimately, political parties are about winning elections. So principles are in.
Trump won the largest electoral college victory for Republicans since 1988. The most recent election victory for Trump was the largest Republican victory since the late 1980s. The Bush establishment wing lost because they refused to focus on the issues that matter like immigration, crime, DEI/race communism, and failing to address populist economic concerns. The establishment country club Republican Party is dead. Alex Pretti and Renee Good are domestic terrorists and violent criminals. They both physically attacked law enforcement and tried to kill them. Renee Good tried to run over law enforcement, and Alex Pretti physically attacked law enforcement for weeks. He can be seen in older videos attacking them and then physically impeding law enforcement while in possession of a firearm which are all major violent crimes. I am not surprised you support violent criminal domestic terrorists like Pretti and Good since your faction also supports releasing thousands of repeat violent offenders on bond (including repeat violent offenders who commit murder) to have them murder thousands of Americans every year. The old Bush GOP and current Democratic Party ignores these attacks by repeat violent offenders out on bond because the killers per capita are overwhelmingly black. Trump actually highlighted these victims like Iryna Zarutska. The most recent electoral college defeat for the Democtratic was their largest defeat in the electoral college since 1988. The American people are tired of the far left extremism of the Democratic party on crime, immigration, and race communism/DEI. Far left extremists like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Mamdani have taken over the Democratic party. Even Obama and Clinton are backtracking now on immigration because they know how extreme their far left AOC controlled base has become.
Trump won the largest electoral college victory for Republicans since 1988. The most recent election victory for Trump was the largest Republican victory since the late 1980s. The Bush establishment wing lost because they refused to focus on the issues that matter like immigration, crime, DEI/race communism, and failing to address populist economic concerns. The establishment Romney/Bush country club Republican Party is dead. Alex Pretti and Renee Good are domestic terrorists and violent criminals. They both physically attacked law enforcement and tried to kill them. Renee Good tried to run over law enforcement, and Alex Pretti physically attacked law enforcement for weeks. He can be seen in older videos attacking them and then physically impeding law enforcement while in possession of a firearm which are all major violent crimes. I am not surprised you support violent criminal domestic terrorists like Pretti and Good since your faction also supports releasing thousands of repeat violent offenders on bond (including repeat violent offenders who commit murder) to have them murder thousands of Americans every year. The old Bush GOP and current Democratic Party ignores these attacks by repeat violent offenders out on bond because the killers per capita are overwhelmingly black. Trump actually highlighted these victims like Iryna Zarutska. The most recent electoral college defeat for the Democtratic party was their largest defeat in the electoral college since 1988. The American people are tired of the far left extremism of the Democratic party on crime, immigration, and race communism/DEI. Far left extremists like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Mamdani have taken over the Democratic party. Even Obama and Clinton are backtracking now on immigration because they know how extreme their far left AOC controlled base has become.
If you have a non-existent GOP, you end up with New England cities and culture. A wasteland for anyone with right wing sensibilities. They will trans your kids, let minorities abuse you, and tax you to death. The Judges are no help. No one will stick up for you without political power.
Ok to play devil's advocate. New England states are the Whitest in the country. So are demographics destiny ? Does policy matter too not just demographics ?
You talk about crime but these states rank as the safest with the highest quality of life.
Vermont is wonderful place to live if you have money and aren't raising a family. Its hard to start a life in these states but they a great place to retire if you like the snow. The dem policies are leading to the demographic change.
I know when it comes to social issues and culture it is quite leftist in New England, however Northern New England cities (New Hampshire and Maine cities) are the second most safest cities in the whole US behind only North Idaho and Northwest Montana cities.
You are correct. It's because of the demographics though. The democrats are trying to destroy those demographics through refugee settlement. Also, every young person leaves for more opportunity. The average age is also very high in those places leading to less crime. There are somewhat better parties in New Hampshire and Maine though. GOP governors in NH and Susan Collins in Maine.
I get what you’re saying 100%. However as someone who lives in a metro area in the South, and has extended family that works in healthcare in Maine/New Hampshire, it is amazing not having to worry about being carjacked or robbed whenever I visit them. The worst crime they experience in northern New England is public intoxication after people leave a sports bar after a big game. The four places I have visited in the US that feel like absolute paradise are northern New England (visit family), North Idaho, Northwest Montana (visit glacier national park and Kalispell), and Northwest Wyoming (visit Jackson, Grand Teton, Yellowstone area). 100% going to retire in one of those places one day. On your last point the libertarian party has joined forces with the Republican Party in New Hampshire because New Hampshire libertarians are mises style Right libertarians. One of their leaders was on Auron McIntyre’s show and he admitted that libertarianism can only work with stable demographics.
It is nice up there. Basically we are trying to keep those people from ruining what they have. As a great man once tweeted “I’m just trying to keep the world from killing itself!”
The reason you have people who think Trump isn't RW enough IS because he won two elections
Anyone in the “online” right can go pick up a petition to run for an office in their local municipality. The GOP has never and will never have your best interest at heart. We need to take control of our own destinies and build a network of like minded peoples in positions of power.
"And we do that by foregoing the one vehicle we have for getting into power. Instead, we're gonna run for local school board as explicit white nationalists and build national power this way"
So a different individual, named Scott Greer, was fired from the Daily Caller for writing White Supremacist content in Radix Journal under a pseudonym.
His fantasies of capturing the Grand Old Party under his brand of evil is as dead as his career.
Trump’s insanity has tanked GOP support in nearly every voting group (suburbs, hispanics, etc).
If Conservatism don’t return to a party of principles, there won't be much of a party left anymore.
Your local GOP and national GOP are far different entities. There are a multitude of offices in local communities that control budgets, write laws, coordinate public works projects, etc. These are real tangible things that help communities and drive culture. Only a retard would run for the school board as an “explicit white nationalist.” Nuance is a powerful tool. We get out of this by actually doing things. Unfortunately speaking into the void about a power structure that has stabbed its constituents in the back every chance it has gotten is not going to cut it.
We're not going to reverse our situation by litigating the budgets of small town Oklahoma. The complaint against the GOP is that they do nothing about the big issues we care about so we're now going to... focus entirely on the local matters that also don't deal with the big issues we care about. It's great to get involved locally, but to think of this as an alternative to national politics is absurd. A small town can be swamped by immigrants placed there by the national government. The only vehicle for national politics is the GOP.
If the GOP continues to drag its feet and self-sabotage, it’s not going to matter. This has been their M.O. for most young people’s living memory. These young conservative types don’t share a connection to the GOP like previous generations. They answer to the donor class, and as long as the checks keep coming in, the status quo will remain unchanged. Decoupling the GOP from corporate interests is never going to happen. I’m not anti-corporation, but their interests rarely coincide with the interests of the general public. Also, this most likely isn’t a tenable option moving forward, but political parties have died and new ones have arisen throughout history. It hasn’t happened in over a century, but it has happened in the United States before.
That’s real life. The vast majority of people are only capable of wielding political influence within their peer group and/or community. It’s about establishing a foundation that can be expanded upon. Maybe having municipal political experience would be beneficial if seeking a state office and from there a national office. Maybe the only way to know how power actually works is to participate within power structures. DC only does what is best for real Americans when they absolutely have to, and they do so begrudgingly. The current state of the GOP isn’t interested in fighting the battles that need to be fought on the national level. The last year and a half would have been the time to do it. They will not have a mandate like the one the 24 election gave them ever again.
The Faustian bargain the GOP made with Trump is that he has a fanbase that is loyal to him and only him. It is sizable and low propensity — a spectacle-obsessed crowd that just likes Trump and only Trump, and they like the entertainment he provides.
The issue is that these people are low propensity and do not vote in midterms or other elections. They can be used against you, and it is unclear if they will stay with the party after Trump. The issue, however, is that this sort of “unwashed masses” coalition turned off more wonkish, ideological voters who tend to vote in midterms and gubernatorial races.
IIRC Democrats in the Trump era did amazingly well at the local and state level, while the Republicans have underperformed every time Trump wasn’t on the ballot. In 2022 the democrats technically lost seats, but it was basically nothing — the seats they lost were in moderate purple districts to moderate Republicans, and there were no big upsets. In my home state of Michigan the local GOP in the Trump era is not doinggood. Trumpian clownshows struggling to entertain and turnout rural hicks have plagued the party. It has gotten so bad that the Michigan GOP got evicted from their office space and I think got a car repossessed. You see this trend Kentucky got a democrat governor, Virginia is very blue. Glen Youngkin was not a Trumpian candidate and MAGA hated him well he is gone. You see this with state legislators all across the country.
This is arguably because of the Dobbs decision, but it could also be that Trump didn’t care about these local races as much, fought with the GOP on candidates, or endorsed bad candidates with a host of character flaws, like Herschel Walker in Georgia. If you ask these people, sometimes they will rattle off some talking points about wokeness or the economy, but those aren’t their real reasons for supporting Trump — they’re their excuses for supporting him.
Anyway, Scott recently said that the thing with Trump is that our ideas (by that he means white identity, immigration restriction, and cultural conservatism) are not popular. They clash with the individualist, Enlightenment liberalism and “folk libertarianism” (a term Scott coined) of modern America. So Trump allows us to launder our politics through an alternative way, because a policy wonk is more likely to be educated and have the sort of “programming” (I know this is a loaded term, but it works for our purposes) against white identity, thinking that it is fake because Noel Ignatiev said so.
Meanwhile, a Trump loyalist who just wants to see him do that stupid dance to “YMCA” doesn’t care if Trump’s president pro tempore said “white is right” ten years ago. This is similar to the gambit Netanyahu made with the Haredi in Israel.
Like we all know that infamous Chuck Schumer quote that For every blue-collar Democrat we lose…we will pick up two…college-educated Republicans. We laugh now,but the thinking was sound given the information at the time. Hillary played it safe and tried to maximize her turnout among reliable voters because, for example, the Romney–Obama election was actually quite close, and a lot of the Obama voters from the first election who voted to spite Bush didn’t show up again. Hillary didn’t bank on a personally motivated Trump fandom.
Her strategy arguably worked in some ways. For example, she was the first Democrat in God knows how long to win Orange County, a massive Republican enclave, because those wealthy California conservatives didn’t like the low-class energy of Trumpism.
I have also warned that the Trumpist coalition was not sustainable. I might go into more detail on this later but Trump just promised too many things to too many people and now those people want what they voted for.
Desperate coping to think that Trump is some sort of pipeline for Online Right ideas. The Trump administration doesn't get their ideas from the Online Right - they lie and say whatever will hype up their easily excitable goyish base, and then get all their actual policy ideas from the entrenched donor class. War with Iran for Mirian Adelson, no mass deportations for Big Agriculture, and AI regulation moratorium for Little Tech. Trump's social media team dangles memes and talking points to entertain the extremely online portion of their base, but the "poasters" are very much NOT in control.
If you believe that, then Online Right views have zero relevance to the American public and is nothing more than a niche internet culture without any real-world presence.
There are of course competing elements within Trumpism. The idea we need to take our ball and go home to our own independent movement would be a failure. See the rest of the article about Cville and the lack of money, mass following, and organizational ability on the Online Right's part.
Basically, yes. Until Online Right ideas capture a big enough chunk of the population or a few billionaires, there is no actual avenue to real power, barring a black swan event. Obviously people should be involved in whatever their local politics are, but acting like the Zionist-captured, Boomer-dominated GOP is some sort of great avenue for success is delusional. The Epstein files are a good example of how Trump "works for" anonymous Twitter posters (LOL). He runs on the issue, raises it a ton to rile up his base of idiot peasants. Then once elected, he does some goofy press release where a bunch of influences are handed fake file packs. Then he spends several months attacking and alienating the very conspiracy theorist base that he riled up, working to cover it up for his Zionist donor owners, before finally releasing the files. Now masses of normies are "woken up" to the "fact" that we are run by Satanic cannibal pedophiles (Pizzagate is basically mainstream among under 30 normies, especially the women), but Trump and the GOP are the ones holding the bag! All this to say that Trump is NOT your guy. Honest question: if Trump disappeared tomorrow, what political option or strategy would you endorse? It seems like you only support Trump because you've convinced yourself that there are no other options.
Thanks for replying btw, despite my comments I do actually like your articles.
How are you going to capture a big chunk of the population and billionaires without involvement in actual politics?
None of the four alternatives I outlined, which is all that people offer to substitute the GOP, are going to do that.
Many of these "awakened" normies are just going to vote Democrat and then return to their daily lives.
Trump is the only serious option now. Marching around masks is not.
I'd rather not vote than vote for a pedophile or pedophile protector.
The same way that just about any historical vanguardist movement has acted: spread ideas through memes and propaganda, network with like-minded people, and acquire influence. Make the ideas appealing. The GOP is a sinking ship, and tying your fortunes to it is a bad move. Yes, people should get involved with it in as much as it can get them power and influence, but we should have no loyalty to it. Trump's best buddies like Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham are THE enemies of the American people.
I think it will be a gradual, generational change. Boomers will not save us. Trump played his part, but now he is no longer pushing the envelope; people like Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson are. But at the end of the day there is no easy answer, because we are in a desperate situation.
is Musk a big enough billionaire? Or is he not in tune with your version of the right? There are currently two dominant ideologies/parties in this country. Like it or not, all power runs through them. You/we have to decide which one will support or endorse our beliefs and political desires. It is what it is. No small movement is going to coalesce into a big movement at this point in history. Especially not with the internet, which by its nature, creates thousands of different factions ideologically.
I know that he is not perfect, there have been some major disappointments, and he is taking the middle road between appeasing the base and appeasing the donors however: illegal immigration through the Southern border has dropped to its lowest level since 1970, the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division has been gutted, disparate impact liability is no longer government policy, ICE was conducting terror raids on sanctuary cities before Pretti/Good, the EEOC is aggressively soliciting complaints about anti-white discrimination in the workplace, refugee admissions have been paused except for white South Africans, the foreign born population is declining for the first time since 1970, training of new border patrol agents has increased to all time highs, American cities are being patrolled by federal anti-crime taskforces and arresting thousands of criminals, the State Department has formal plans to create an Office of Remigration, the US has experienced the largest single-year drop in murder rate in recorded history, new Indian student enrollment is down 75% in just a year, the Treasury Department is targeting the funding of Antifa, which has been designated a terror network and is cut off from its traditional funding mechanisms, DHS is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on football field-sized detention centers in multiple states, and legal immigration is on track to decline by as much as 1/2 by the end of Trump’s term
You said it man.
Just a reminder: Scott Greer was fired from the Daily Caller for writing White Supremacist content in Radix Journal under a pseudonym.
His fantasies of capturing the Grand Old Party under his brand of evil is as dead as his career.
Trump’s insanity has tanked GOP support in nearly every voting group (suburbs, hispanics, etc).
If Conservatism don’t return to a party of principles, there won't be much of a party left anymore.
Trump won 45% of the Hispanic vote, 40% of the Asian vote, and 13% of the black vote. That’s more than anyone Republican was doing before Trump.
If he’s so electorally cancerous, why did he win twice?
The 2024 election was a very narrow race slanted by lies (remember “Insurance IVF”, “Platinum Plan” when Trump promised to personally promote diversity training and equity).
The Republican lead is narrow, districts won by twenty points have flipped.
And those lies, such as promising to only deport the “worst of the worst”, then doing the opposite, have demolished every minute gain in 2024 the Gop was able to claim:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-losing-ground-with-voters-who-powered-his-2024-gains-10811176
The Conservative party has one option: return to a party of principles, or die without them.
Right. Because if the Republicans go back to being the party of Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and Karl Rove they will be electoral juggernauts.
This is true: " the Online Right has no mass following, money, or organizational ability."
So why should the GOP comply? It has made its position very clear over a decade now. Trump is great - they love Trump, and he does what Speaker Johnson and Majority Leader Thune want. He does not do what even Bannon wants. He won't do what "The Online Right" wants.
This is also true: "the Online Right’s fortunes are tied to Trump.", and Trump will not be the president, in just a little over 1,000 days. (1066 to be precise as. of Feb 19, 2026).
That time ago was March 23rd, 2023 - which wasn't so long ago. That should give us some perspective on how it isn't that far away that Trump won't be the president.
What comes next for the GOP and the Online Right's use of it 'as a tool'? Will it get more of a mass following, more money, and more organizational ability? Will JD Vance enjoy more seething about his wife Usha being ethnically Indian, and his children being considered racially inferior and less American by the luminaries of the Online Right? Perhaps Marco Rubio will embrace his conquistador and come out in a full throated endorsement of White American self determination?
Neither of these outcomes seem particularly likely.
I want to play Devil's advocate. I talked about this in a reply to another comment but compare the South to the North East.
The GOP dominate the south yet the numbers for quality of life such as obesity, life expectancy,drug use and crime are awful. I am aware of the fact this is made worse by Blacks however even among Whites these numbers are worst then in New England where the democrats have a monopoly on power. To be fair it tends to be moderate democrats but still.
The idea the GOP are a thin red line preventing a third world anti White tyranny state is fear mongering and we need to hold the gop to account on their problems.
Also Scott is getting mad at further right more pro White factions doing the same thing Trump did. You praise Trump for rocking the boat, calling out the establishment and party leadership why is Casey Putsch criticizing Trump the end of the world ?
The great control is Idaho. Idaho’s governance is extremely right wing. Idaho doesn’t have the problems of the southern Republican states from a demographic standpoint and it’s consistently ranked by U.S. News & World Report as one of the three best states to live in across all metrics every single year in the rankings. Another Republican state in Utah without the same demographic problems that southern Republican states have is consistently ranked number one in the rankings. New Hampshire, which has a republican governor and republican legislature right now is ranked number two, and Nebraska is in the top five as well. Policy matters to some extent however in the end demographics is destiny. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings
Trust the plan, says the regime man. Lol!
Free Palestine and death to israel
There is another option. Move to Mexico. There aren't as many whites, sure but many whites aren't your friend and Mexico is more demographically stable and will continue to be so and it's actually more free than America which will just become progressively less free over time.
Greer's certainly right that the online sexless trad boys should stop attacking Trump and simping for spics. But he conflates that with defending the GOP, who are indifferent to the fate of whites (especially poor ones) and hate low status men as much as any white woman (probably because they all have money and they want to make sure no creepy incels try to raid their harems).
Another excellent essay!
The problem is we didn’t dump Trump. He dumped us and torched his entire second term barely 6 months in by running cover for Jeffery fucking Epstein.
All of the other stuff (wall, deportation numbers, etc) could be sort of excused as politics as usual. But not releasing everything on Epstein was the worst move he could make. In a way, the chief reason people voted for Donald Trump in 2016 was to do stuff like releasing the Epstein files.
Our political fortunes aren’t tied to him. He’s been great, indeed incredible beyond anyone’s wildest dreams if they’re being honest. But he can be discarded and replaced relatively quickly.
It sucks that this Epstein shit is what he decided to sacrifice his legacy on, but thems the brakes. Time to move on. We’ll be ok.
One of the fundamental divides of the so-called Right is the "system can be saved" vs. "the system cannot". Unlike the Left, the Right has a strong contingent of normal and serious people who pretty much want monarchism or strongman rule to replace Liberal Democracy. Those that support Trump are Democracy enjoyers and those that have abandoned him are strongman enjoyers. Scott Greer is definitely in the Democracy enjoyer camp.
I admit I have a foot in the strongman camp, and I don't believe we can vote our way out of a long, slow decline. I think Scott will be validated if one of Trump's acolytes wins in 2028, and maybe there's hope for the USA and Democracy after all, but if we swing back to Pelosi-McConnellism post-Trump than I am validated.
We are never going back to Pelosi-McConnellism post-Trump I wish people would stop fucking saying that because it's a shameless fear mongering tactic.
The support is not there. The neolib neocon dynamic was popular. Reagan won commanding majority. Cliton won a solid majority Bush won the popular vote as did Obama.
The idea that no one liked it and it was forced on us ! Is internet age mythology because the people who liked it and felt served by it are old or dead now and were regular people not represented by political theorist and online dissidents.
I blame the voters as much as anyone else, but that's the problem isn't it. "Being popular" usually means a thing is dangled in front of the hoi-polloi and they accept it as the great thing. Most people are not very curious, and only have enough time and energy to be focused on one or 2 things, often poorly. The rest, they leave to "experts".
F-150s are "popular" not because they've passed some popular litmus test. Neither is Taylor Swift nor the NFL. Coca-Cola is just sugary fizzy water. The GOP rabble will fall in love with whichever suit is put in front of them...they loved Bush, loved McCain, pretended to love Romney, and loved Trump. When Rubio gets the nod in 2028, they will love him. If the reanimated corpse of Bob Dole gets the nod, they will love him.
I'm saying it's most certainly "forced on us", and I would rather not validate the rotten system by "voting our way out of it".