I saw the same thing on American Renaissance. Jared Taylor and his staff would constantly try to keep the discussion focused on race issues. But a significant chunk of the commenters would hijack threads to talk about Jews, and this was to the total exclusion of any race/identity issues. It basically comes down to Jews/anti-Semitism and what people are focused on. Many of them tacitly and even openly acknowledged that they have no problems with non-whites, immigration, or actual race issues, but their main beef was with Jews. That's the distinction in this Online Right debate.
100%. "The Jew Thing" is a very potent drug, and seems to overwhelm even those I (used to) call intelligent. Not sure why it seems to override civilization-tier issues like immigration. Though I suspect most people who Greer is critiquing are under-30s. They are almost all political retards. Have always been. They don't understand trade-offs like adults do.
I find "The Jew Thing" to be very 20th-century as well. The 21st century and beyond will be "The Indian Thing" or even "The African Thing". Ashkenazim are becoming extinct as they would rather be gay or dogparents, like every other educated urbanite.
Not really accurate. People bring up the Jewish question because that is largely the root cause of the race problems in America. Jews regularly boast about their outsized role in the civil rights movement and ending segregation. And it's mostly Jews churning out anti-white hate propaganda through their ownership of the media and entertainment industries. The Jewish billionaire class also supports high levels of "legal" and illegal immigration and refugee resettlement.
The is deeply tied with the Netflixification of everything. These people are not serious political operators, but political hobbyists. To them the conspiracy theories, the drama, the chimping, all of it is a form of entertainment. They are mad that their perceived problems are not being solved immediately, denying them the feeling of instant gratification that they crave. From there the constant chimping and trooning is a way for them to stimulate themselves in a debauched way. It’s practically a form of masturbation.
has the "radical right" been of any use? The one attempt by the Alt Right to get involved in politics resulted in mass doxings, increased internet censorship, and further erasure of confederate heritage.
Republicans had no power over what Democrats in Virginia did or what Big Tech companies did. Cville also demonstrated the Alt Right had zero public support and few devoted followers. If you want to keep repeating that mistake, you're more than welcome to.
Sure, if you ignore deportations, better economy, rolling back the anti white agenda, and all the people who flooded across the border under Biden. But given the fact that you're peddling this balloon juice, you probably think Biden was better on the border than Trump.
South Carolina and Mississippi were both under Republican control and they, too, waged war on the Confederate flag and Confederate symbolism. Arch conservative Ron Desantis replaced Florida's Confederate state statue in the national mall with an unknown black civil rights activist. Trump celebrated Black History month and once again gave record funding to HBCUs.
Only fools think there can be any “alliance” with libtards imo. But at what threshold do you consider continued support of the GOP rewarding bad behavior, Scott?
I think my first question as a subscriber (but already a longtime listener) two or so years ago was fueled by this pipe dream - essentially asking if we could convert the Left to race realists, given the harm nonwhites cause to most of the Left's pet issues (LGBT issues, environmentalism, women's rights, etc.). Scott said that a leftist basically has to be mugged by reality to wake up to race issues. Of course in the long run I've come to agree, especially as the left proves time and again that antiwhite hysteria is its priority. Unfortunately a lot of the online right is even more imaginative and unhelpful than I was then.
I know of only Left-Right alliance that worked. It was the Social Contract group that was run and funded by John Taunton from the 1980s until around the mid 2010s. The organization likely still exists but I never hear of it anymore. They were anti-immigration and pro-environment and included men such as Sam Francis and Wayne Lutton. The Social Contract was involved in both state and national legislation and movements like Prop 187 in California.
Peter Brimelow and Jared Taylor attended (but rarely spoke at) their events in Washington DC. I attended their annual "writers workshop" from the late 90s until the last one in 2019. Panels would talk pretty openly about race and immigration but you would see some attendees wearing "Obama '04" campaign buttons as well. Once Taunton died in 2012 or so it started to fade.
No thanks, I am tired of being raped. No amount of substack articles will change this. Until the right offers a serious canidate, I will not be voting for a Republican.
The final nail in the coffin for that type of thinking was Biden's presidency. People let Trump know they weren't happy in 2020 (allegedly), which facilitated the greatest influx of non whites we've ever seen.
The online right is sincere about an alliance with the left while the left is only flirting with the idea out of political expediency and will reject the right once they regain political power which is likely in 2029. The fact that anti-white hatred is the main plank of the Jewish led American left wing should rule out any alliance with them although currently many leftists are toning down their anti-white rhetoric and appear more moderate to improve their electoral fortunes.
If I have to hesr "Epstein Coalition," or Epstein class," one more frigging time. It's getting tiresome
If you listen to the spaces and livestreams of online influences who side with Iran, you'll find this is really about the third vs thr first world. It's like the black american press celebrating Japan winning the Russo-Japanese war.
And outside of the OR, the white people most animated in favor of Iran and against Israel often have non-white spouses, or are long-time conspiracy nutters of the left-wing variety.
I think we need to acknowledge this war was perhaps inevitable. The more I learn about the Iranian regime, it's weapons program, it's ideology-- everyone should read some of the speeches Ruhollah Khomeini gave, very enlighteing, he's constantly claiming Iran should work to liberate the wolrds "opressed."- the more I come to the conclusion that the Islamic Republic is essentially a Maoist regime minus the Marxism and with an Islamic veneer.
Not that Scott is saying this, but it would be a mistake to blame the Iran strikes for dividing the right seeing as how the moral nannies and pedo conspiratards were already out in force prior. To the extent that the strikes are a source of contention, I blame the idiotic online right rather than Trump.
To me it's an issue of basic accountability, because Republicans ran a scam: they promised mass deportations and delivered another Jewish war. The current crop of Republican politicians need to lose their jobs.
Electing more Democrats means fewer deportations. They are unanimously against funding ICE and making life harder for illegals. Any right winger who supports them has lost the plot.
Look, when Democratic president imports 10 million people in 4 years, and then Republican president deports 1.5 millions (best case under Trump 2.0), deportations become a sideshow. Donald Trump immigration agenda is NOT a success, because the numbers are simply not there. Congressional GOP is even worse, funding refugee resettlement programs and refusing pass any restrictionist laws.
Just because GOP hates you slightly less, than Democrats do is not a valid reason to vote for them. At the end of the day, GOP still wants you dead.
That doesn't make any sense. For one, you ought to factor in self-deportations. The whole point is getting these people out of our country, whether its the government formally deporting them or leaving of their own volition makes no difference. The fact is we've gotten net negative migration for the first time since the 60s, and the only way to redeem this country is by keeping that up for as long as possible. Perfect should never be the enemy of good. Punishing the Republicans for only giving us some of what we want results in us getting nothing. Democrats back in power will reopen the floodgates and restart the tech censorship apparatus.
Why doesn't this make sense? Do you not understand math? Do you not understand that deporting 1.5 million out of 10 million still leaves 8.5 million, who get to permanently stay? Trump has no plan to get them removed, he is only going after "criminals" - this is what he said, "hardworking" farm workers get to stay.
And then the next Democratic president (Democratic victory in 2028 is programmed at this point) will easily add another 10 million. Trump's immigration policy is done by decree and will be reversed on day 1.
There have already been over 1.5 million when you include self-deportations. Deporting the rest will take time, since ICE can only do so much at once. If you want to see more deportations faster, you ought to support the party that funds deportations, not the one that wants to bring in even more immigrants.
Trump already stated that non-criminal "workers" will not be deported. That's the vast majority of illegals. Trump is unwilling to raid businesses. His policy is simply inadequate and he is unwilling to do more.
There have always been (self)deportations, and US foreign-born population reached 51 million in Nov 2025. Trump made barely a dent.
We have net negative migration for the first time in several decades. The numbers could be better but any time any actual deportations happen, people like you flip out and call it "performative theater" or whatever and start talking about copes like "just go after their employers." If you or any of these critics were in charge you would run into the same logistical limitations and imperfect optics.
The current crop of Republican politicians would not lose their jobs. If they did, they wouldn't learn anything from it. As Scott has said many times, the GOP establishment would interpret any Trump failures as a need to go back to old fashioned small government conservatism that's all about tax cuts. The base that actually votes are going to turn out for Republicans no matter what, so you wouldn't be doing any damage or having any more influence than you did before.
GOP establishment is the enemy here, entire structure just needs to be shattered. Like Israel is trying to force "regime change" in Iran by taking out their politicians, right-wingers need to do the same to Republican officeholders.
That would've been a good idea 30 years ago when democrats were still pushing for replacement, but in a restrained fashion. You don't try to fix your roof in the middle of a flash flood That's what's sort of ironic about the accelerationist argument. We're actually too late to try that.
Okay, then do that. Run for office. Back a candidate that does what you want. Don’t just complain online and tell everyone to not vote at all or to vote for democrats out of spite.
To be clear I'm a total autarkist when it comes to needs/national security concerns. Things like energy and food stuffs etc.
The issue with mass reindustrialization is that it would require mass amounts of imported labor. We aren't gonna fill 20 million manufacturing jobs without that. You could say automation but unions and in some cases business will both oppose that.
The issue with Trump's trade policy is that he doesn't seem to know what he wants. At times he's said he wants a weaker dollar other times he wants stronger dollar. He's right to want a weaker dollar as a stronger dollar results in capital absorption and inflated US assets. Taxing capital inflows is the policy implication
unfortunately those guys sitting around idle are not ready for any kind of the engineering/technical skills needed for advanced materials or aerospace etc.
That is how I thought and when I originally supported Desantis over Trump I thought he was more mentally stable. He would not do the dumb tariffs and interventions. He would focus on identity and immigration issues. All the juice Trump wastes on tariffs and interventions he wastes capitol on the other issues. Now the GOP is so unpopular it will lose both houses of congress come November in my view. Especially with rising prices on everything coming soon and for sure before November.
I saw the same thing on American Renaissance. Jared Taylor and his staff would constantly try to keep the discussion focused on race issues. But a significant chunk of the commenters would hijack threads to talk about Jews, and this was to the total exclusion of any race/identity issues. It basically comes down to Jews/anti-Semitism and what people are focused on. Many of them tacitly and even openly acknowledged that they have no problems with non-whites, immigration, or actual race issues, but their main beef was with Jews. That's the distinction in this Online Right debate.
100%. "The Jew Thing" is a very potent drug, and seems to overwhelm even those I (used to) call intelligent. Not sure why it seems to override civilization-tier issues like immigration. Though I suspect most people who Greer is critiquing are under-30s. They are almost all political retards. Have always been. They don't understand trade-offs like adults do.
I find "The Jew Thing" to be very 20th-century as well. The 21st century and beyond will be "The Indian Thing" or even "The African Thing". Ashkenazim are becoming extinct as they would rather be gay or dogparents, like every other educated urbanite.
Not really accurate. People bring up the Jewish question because that is largely the root cause of the race problems in America. Jews regularly boast about their outsized role in the civil rights movement and ending segregation. And it's mostly Jews churning out anti-white hate propaganda through their ownership of the media and entertainment industries. The Jewish billionaire class also supports high levels of "legal" and illegal immigration and refugee resettlement.
If the coalition he describes takes power, I am moving to mexico.
The is deeply tied with the Netflixification of everything. These people are not serious political operators, but political hobbyists. To them the conspiracy theories, the drama, the chimping, all of it is a form of entertainment. They are mad that their perceived problems are not being solved immediately, denying them the feeling of instant gratification that they crave. From there the constant chimping and trooning is a way for them to stimulate themselves in a debauched way. It’s practically a form of masturbation.
The centre Right has been catastrophically useless since 1945 particularly across the Anglo-sphere.
has the "radical right" been of any use? The one attempt by the Alt Right to get involved in politics resulted in mass doxings, increased internet censorship, and further erasure of confederate heritage.
All which happened while GOP was in power, so why should the Right support this party again?
Republicans had no power over what Democrats in Virginia did or what Big Tech companies did. Cville also demonstrated the Alt Right had zero public support and few devoted followers. If you want to keep repeating that mistake, you're more than welcome to.
Electing Trump was a mistake: Republican politicians never seem to have time for actual right-wing agenda, but they sure love Jewish wars.
Sure, if you ignore deportations, better economy, rolling back the anti white agenda, and all the people who flooded across the border under Biden. But given the fact that you're peddling this balloon juice, you probably think Biden was better on the border than Trump.
South Carolina and Mississippi were both under Republican control and they, too, waged war on the Confederate flag and Confederate symbolism. Arch conservative Ron Desantis replaced Florida's Confederate state statue in the national mall with an unknown black civil rights activist. Trump celebrated Black History month and once again gave record funding to HBCUs.
Even voting GOP we get black nationalism lite.
The centre Right has broadly been in actual power across the Anglo-sphere, particularly here in the UK for the last 100 years.
The biggest problem with any challenge to that strangle hold is the failure to raise big money. Without big money its hard to achieve anything.
White people are not putting their hands in their pockets.
Jewish people I know think nothing of using 10% of what they earn to fund institutions, media and lobby/ pressure groups.
+ I'm very open to thinking outside the old Left v Right paradigm tho.
Only fools think there can be any “alliance” with libtards imo. But at what threshold do you consider continued support of the GOP rewarding bad behavior, Scott?
I think my first question as a subscriber (but already a longtime listener) two or so years ago was fueled by this pipe dream - essentially asking if we could convert the Left to race realists, given the harm nonwhites cause to most of the Left's pet issues (LGBT issues, environmentalism, women's rights, etc.). Scott said that a leftist basically has to be mugged by reality to wake up to race issues. Of course in the long run I've come to agree, especially as the left proves time and again that antiwhite hysteria is its priority. Unfortunately a lot of the online right is even more imaginative and unhelpful than I was then.
I know of only Left-Right alliance that worked. It was the Social Contract group that was run and funded by John Taunton from the 1980s until around the mid 2010s. The organization likely still exists but I never hear of it anymore. They were anti-immigration and pro-environment and included men such as Sam Francis and Wayne Lutton. The Social Contract was involved in both state and national legislation and movements like Prop 187 in California.
Peter Brimelow and Jared Taylor attended (but rarely spoke at) their events in Washington DC. I attended their annual "writers workshop" from the late 90s until the last one in 2019. Panels would talk pretty openly about race and immigration but you would see some attendees wearing "Obama '04" campaign buttons as well. Once Taunton died in 2012 or so it started to fade.
No thanks, I am tired of being raped. No amount of substack articles will change this. Until the right offers a serious canidate, I will not be voting for a Republican.
The final nail in the coffin for that type of thinking was Biden's presidency. People let Trump know they weren't happy in 2020 (allegedly), which facilitated the greatest influx of non whites we've ever seen.
The online right is sincere about an alliance with the left while the left is only flirting with the idea out of political expediency and will reject the right once they regain political power which is likely in 2029. The fact that anti-white hatred is the main plank of the Jewish led American left wing should rule out any alliance with them although currently many leftists are toning down their anti-white rhetoric and appear more moderate to improve their electoral fortunes.
If I have to hesr "Epstein Coalition," or Epstein class," one more frigging time. It's getting tiresome
If you listen to the spaces and livestreams of online influences who side with Iran, you'll find this is really about the third vs thr first world. It's like the black american press celebrating Japan winning the Russo-Japanese war.
And outside of the OR, the white people most animated in favor of Iran and against Israel often have non-white spouses, or are long-time conspiracy nutters of the left-wing variety.
I think we need to acknowledge this war was perhaps inevitable. The more I learn about the Iranian regime, it's weapons program, it's ideology-- everyone should read some of the speeches Ruhollah Khomeini gave, very enlighteing, he's constantly claiming Iran should work to liberate the wolrds "opressed."- the more I come to the conclusion that the Islamic Republic is essentially a Maoist regime minus the Marxism and with an Islamic veneer.
I'm not siding with the third world in this one.
Well my favorite workout shirt says, " better dead than red", so I'm a hard pass. There is. O redeeming value to be found on the left, none.
Not that Scott is saying this, but it would be a mistake to blame the Iran strikes for dividing the right seeing as how the moral nannies and pedo conspiratards were already out in force prior. To the extent that the strikes are a source of contention, I blame the idiotic online right rather than Trump.
To me it's an issue of basic accountability, because Republicans ran a scam: they promised mass deportations and delivered another Jewish war. The current crop of Republican politicians need to lose their jobs.
Electing more Democrats means fewer deportations. They are unanimously against funding ICE and making life harder for illegals. Any right winger who supports them has lost the plot.
Look, when Democratic president imports 10 million people in 4 years, and then Republican president deports 1.5 millions (best case under Trump 2.0), deportations become a sideshow. Donald Trump immigration agenda is NOT a success, because the numbers are simply not there. Congressional GOP is even worse, funding refugee resettlement programs and refusing pass any restrictionist laws.
Just because GOP hates you slightly less, than Democrats do is not a valid reason to vote for them. At the end of the day, GOP still wants you dead.
That doesn't make any sense. For one, you ought to factor in self-deportations. The whole point is getting these people out of our country, whether its the government formally deporting them or leaving of their own volition makes no difference. The fact is we've gotten net negative migration for the first time since the 60s, and the only way to redeem this country is by keeping that up for as long as possible. Perfect should never be the enemy of good. Punishing the Republicans for only giving us some of what we want results in us getting nothing. Democrats back in power will reopen the floodgates and restart the tech censorship apparatus.
Why doesn't this make sense? Do you not understand math? Do you not understand that deporting 1.5 million out of 10 million still leaves 8.5 million, who get to permanently stay? Trump has no plan to get them removed, he is only going after "criminals" - this is what he said, "hardworking" farm workers get to stay.
And then the next Democratic president (Democratic victory in 2028 is programmed at this point) will easily add another 10 million. Trump's immigration policy is done by decree and will be reversed on day 1.
There have already been over 1.5 million when you include self-deportations. Deporting the rest will take time, since ICE can only do so much at once. If you want to see more deportations faster, you ought to support the party that funds deportations, not the one that wants to bring in even more immigrants.
Trump already stated that non-criminal "workers" will not be deported. That's the vast majority of illegals. Trump is unwilling to raid businesses. His policy is simply inadequate and he is unwilling to do more.
There have always been (self)deportations, and US foreign-born population reached 51 million in Nov 2025. Trump made barely a dent.
We have net negative migration for the first time in several decades. The numbers could be better but any time any actual deportations happen, people like you flip out and call it "performative theater" or whatever and start talking about copes like "just go after their employers." If you or any of these critics were in charge you would run into the same logistical limitations and imperfect optics.
The current crop of Republican politicians would not lose their jobs. If they did, they wouldn't learn anything from it. As Scott has said many times, the GOP establishment would interpret any Trump failures as a need to go back to old fashioned small government conservatism that's all about tax cuts. The base that actually votes are going to turn out for Republicans no matter what, so you wouldn't be doing any damage or having any more influence than you did before.
GOP establishment is the enemy here, entire structure just needs to be shattered. Like Israel is trying to force "regime change" in Iran by taking out their politicians, right-wingers need to do the same to Republican officeholders.
That would've been a good idea 30 years ago when democrats were still pushing for replacement, but in a restrained fashion. You don't try to fix your roof in the middle of a flash flood That's what's sort of ironic about the accelerationist argument. We're actually too late to try that.
Okay, then do that. Run for office. Back a candidate that does what you want. Don’t just complain online and tell everyone to not vote at all or to vote for democrats out of spite.
Yeah its dumb to think Vance would be better on tariffs. He's way more into re industrialization than Trump is.
Vance is more realist than Trump's Jacksonianism though
To be clear I'm a total autarkist when it comes to needs/national security concerns. Things like energy and food stuffs etc.
The issue with mass reindustrialization is that it would require mass amounts of imported labor. We aren't gonna fill 20 million manufacturing jobs without that. You could say automation but unions and in some cases business will both oppose that.
The issue with Trump's trade policy is that he doesn't seem to know what he wants. At times he's said he wants a weaker dollar other times he wants stronger dollar. He's right to want a weaker dollar as a stronger dollar results in capital absorption and inflated US assets. Taxing capital inflows is the policy implication
unfortunately those guys sitting around idle are not ready for any kind of the engineering/technical skills needed for advanced materials or aerospace etc.
And imported labor does?
That is how I thought and when I originally supported Desantis over Trump I thought he was more mentally stable. He would not do the dumb tariffs and interventions. He would focus on identity and immigration issues. All the juice Trump wastes on tariffs and interventions he wastes capitol on the other issues. Now the GOP is so unpopular it will lose both houses of congress come November in my view. Especially with rising prices on everything coming soon and for sure before November.