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Jorj Bush's avatar

I think a big part of it is that the parts of the right most concerned with culture are all divided on what they want. It's several different factions of LARPers all telling each other what we need to Retvrn to.

*There's the "back to the 90s" crowd that are fine with 90s levels of sex, violence, general vulgarity, and affirmative action tokenism, which inevitably slides into what we have now. Closest to the FanDuel Americans in outlook.

*There aren't as many anymore but there's still aw shucks 1950s/1980s nostalgia people that want consumer culture and suburbs and women staying at home. Fair enough but material circumstances are never going back to the 50s/80s. Basically just 90s people with different decades.

*There's the "vitalist" LARP which thinks every man in the 21st century is somehow supposed to live in the Homeric Greek dark ages and read Nietzsche and very specific parts of Roman history. They sometimes like fantasy and science fiction, but basically only their own personal interpretation of Robert E Howard stories.

*There's the Trad Crusader brigade that want an unrealistic amount of Catholic/Orthodox cultural influence over Protestant America and a return to renaissance painting that won't happen.

*There's various types that grab bits and bobs from everything but have a kind of general 18th and 19th century aesthetic, who think that our elites need to take up fox hunting and ballroom dancing again or whatever. Also not going to happen.

*As you mentioned the much larger bulk of normie Protestant evangelicals just wants Angel Studios and typical kitsch middle of the road platitudes.

It's too much of a mess for any kind of dedicated cultural revival. I think our best bet would be to try to make something new, as difficult as that is.

LK Rurick's avatar

I think the real problem here is the selection pressure against high minded conservatism in our current societal structures. It’s always been a silly expectation for Mr. Dixie who loves Beer and drives a shitbox pickup truck to be writing dissertations on Herodotus. Pre-Trump conservative elites regardless of their actual beliefs effectively made themselves liberals by caving in to the left’s framework constantly over time, hence “progressives minus 20

Years.” Trump isn’t an intellectual or even coherently ideological but there’s a time for pure id, and he fit the bill.

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