Great piece. “National divorce” and “get out of cities” rhetoric serves the same function on the Right that doctrinaire libertarianism did 15 years ago. Proponents don’t want to admit (to themselves or others) that they hold (legitimately subversive) opinions—or how hard it would be to turn those opinions into policy. So they avoid doing so with supposedly edgy fantasies. Thanks for doing yeoman’s work on this front and encouraging people to focus on the real concerns of white middle and working class Americans
Well you tell us to vote harder and we do but it never changes anything. Republicans had all three branches of the federal government from 2000 to 2006 and did next to nothing. Tea Party groups were mercilessly harassed by Obama's IRS from 2010 to 2012 which prevented them from fundraising to elect candidates and campaign against Obama's re-election bid. We voted hard for Trump in 2016 and again had all three branches of govt until the 2018 midterms and all we got was tax cuts and the First Step Act. In fact, during the Trump administration the radical left rampaged through the institutions and persecuted right of center voters like never before all while Trump entertained Kim Kardashian in the oval office and tweeted.
Now the radical left is attempting to keep right wing Republicans off the ballot using lawfare tactics. But there's no point to winning elections when Republicans refuse to wield power on behalf of their voters.
Scott says the states won't leave because they need federal assistance but look at E. Palestine, OH and the lack of federal support for that disaster should tell you that we are entering an era where Democrat administrations will not assist red states. Biden admin refuses to lift a finger in helping border states turn back illegal aliens and massive amounts of deadly drugs. The federal government, at least under Democrats, is fast becoming illegitimate.
Of course there are a lot of practical problems with an immediate national divorce but most who desire it know that and don't expect it to happen overnight. But Scott is like the CIA agents in the 1980's who confidently predicted that the Soviet Union would endure for decades before it suddenly collapsed a few short years later.
The only people who feel this particular type of anger are a tiny minority. The vast majority of national divorce supporters don't want it to be racial. A separated Red America would just be like Red America today, except they would teach Martin Luther King was a Republican in schools. White identitarians can't even host rallies in the current system. There is no indication the system would allow them to have their own country, especially when they only number in the few thousands. You would want to secede from the divorced Red America if it came to be. But it won't be. Ordinary conservatives have no leverage to make the system allow us to separate. We're not rioting or doing anything to threaten the system. The system can handle grumbling on the internet.
The first step before doing anything is to gain a degree of power in the current structures. If you can't even manage that, you can't secede. Why would the system left us leave? What leverage do we have on them? People would laugh at furry communists demanding their own state, but people feel another fringe group making the same claim is a serious threat.
The Soviet Union could barely project power internally in the late 80s, much less externally. As Scott says, the USA is currently having Europe blow up its own energy infrastructure to earn good boy points with Uncle Sam.
The Republicans are far from perfect but the solution to an imperfect but real situation isn't to imagine an unrealistic one and just wish it to be true.
We know much about the late stages of the Soviet Union now but the CIA didn't know it then. We know now that communism had alienated so many people inside the Soviet Union that collapse was not a surprise. It's only a matter of time before the federal government alienates so many people in America that the same happens to us.
The USA isn't so strong. Rather, Europe and its leaders are so weak and willing to take orders.
What's the analog to this situation? The US intelligence community got the Russian invasion of Ukraine spot on, almost down to the day. They've managed to unite most of the population behind an expensive and potentially world-endangering role for the United States in defending Ukraine. They have, once again, persuaded Europe to dismantle its own energy infrastructure in order to weaken Russia and draw China into the conflict.
The alienation of the Soviet citizenry was not the core cause of the USSR's collapse, but even if it was, we're actually in a worse position to have that happen. The USSR first saw the Baltic republics effectively secede, and then Georgia: while these places had large Russian and Russophone populations, they were and are majority of their own ethnic groups. That is, Estonia has Estonians, Latvia Latvians, and so on. In the US, there is no pre-existing geographic area that can possibly be compared. Even if we have fever dreams of the federal response to East Palestine having some kind of galvanizing effect on the disaffected Middle Americans, the Middle Americans live in a far more integrated society than the Soviets did and cannot count on the support of their immediate neighbors. Also, the US infrastructure is far more centralized than that of the Soviets: if by some miracle you managed to get (for example) the Ohio River communities united in their rejection of Uncle Sam, well, that's great, but even Pittsburgh would balk at it. So you have a tiny rump state, some kind of NASCAR bantustan, despised by everything around it, with no institutional support, and (unlike the breakaway Soviet republics, who had the entire West waiting for them with open arms) no foreign support either.
It's just not going to happen. You need to reconcile yourself to the fact that it's not going to happen.
As a cheerleader for the U.S. intelligence community how do you know they got the invasion down to the day? Firstly, the Russians telegraphed their intentions and deliberately so, and all the media said was that an attacks was imminent "any day" which they repeated for at least two weeks until the invasion actually occurred.
Most of the the Russian speaking populations in the Baltic states were placed there as colonists I believe by Stalin and this was always a source of ethnic tension in those states. Ethnic tension was another Achilles heel of the Soviet Union just as racial tension and animosity is a big unresolved problem in the disunited States of America.
The point about federal assistance is that Scott claimed that the states are too reliant on the feds for disaster assistance which is true but in the case of E. Palestine, OH, and border states we have an increasing number of cases where Democrat admins will only assist states contingent on their pro-Democrat/left wing politics. If this trend continues then it will begin alienating some states from the federal govt and weaken Scott's argument. In the case of E. Palestine it looks like the Biden people see the bad optics and are reversing themselves but a bad precedent has been set.
Regarding your snide remarks about a NASCAR bantustan who on the right is suggesting such a thing other than you? People are simply asking if it's worth it to remain together when our disagreements are so fundamental and deepening by the month and because the right has virtually no political representation. And to that you and Scott have combusted into balls of flame. I think most people who support national divorce realize there are many practical problems with effecting that at the present time but things can change rapidly.
You especially look silly when it was the radical left who first violently attempted small scale secession in Seattle in the summer of 2020 with their CHOP/CHAZ zone where it was filled with violence, degeneracy, public defecation and other types of animalistic behavior. The leftist media applauded this move. I'll take NASCAR bantustan over that any day.
Cheerleader implies that I like what's happening: I don't. I'd rather we were not involved. But looking at this unbiasedly, the US Empire is the big winner here. They got their Intel right - their own narrative is that theirs was right and Ukraine was caught flat-footed. I don't know if that second part is true, or if that was to help justify our aid to them. Russia's telegraphing is very clear in retrospect but absent US ground imagery, a lot of people got it wrong.
The point about the Russian question in the post-Soviet states isn't completely irrelevant, but two key points here: first, even places like Estonia, which are very anti-Moscow politically, have large and peaceful Russian populations. The amount of tension there is far lower than in Ukraine. Second, the US is far more integrated - politically, racially, socially - and outside some dead rural areas any kind of ethnic or political insurrection is far more likely to fight for the Empire than against it.
I'm not suggesting a NASCAR bantustan: I'm saying it's the only thing possible. You say so yourself - when the Left declared autonomy, the Empire let them and the media fawned over them and called it a Summer of Love as kids were gunned down in the streets. All the institutional support goes on one direction, and you *cannot* have an independence movement without institutional support. This is particularly true when it's a brother-against-brother conflict (as this would be) at a time when the population's material needs are completely met.
You're mistaking my describing for endorsing. I think the federal bureaucracy is out of control and I think our militarism is dangerous for the world and bad for Americans. But being powerlessly mad about this online, and mistaking this for a grassroots desire for separation in the first place - much less its feasibility - is just LARPing.
When I ask how the right gets institutional support I get no answer from Greer or anyone else. I doubt you can tell me either other than to vote harder next time. I hate to break it to you but there will be no long right wing march through the institutions because demographically we (whites) just don't have time. Left wing Jews control the media and they don't allow upstart non-Jews into their media Cosa nostra.
That's why however fanciful people are talking national divorce because in new breakaway republics the right would control the media and all the new institutions.
The left tells the right, especially right of center whites, that they hate us and that we are the problem with America. Ok then, let us go our own way. But when we say that they shriek like banshees, change their tune to universalism or lecture us about treason and the last time this was tried. It's time they make up their effing minds.
The left isn't afraid to think and dream big no matter how asinine the idea. At one time gay marriage and reparations would never happen and were too radical yet here we are and with drag queen story hours to boot! They forced these things into the public discourse and consciousness. There were no left wing Scott Greers telling them that they were insane and it would fracture the country and was just plain not possible.
But in the age of the internet you don't necessarily need media control and institutional power to spread ideas which is why the left is now clamoring for "hate speech" laws and were/are using their corrupt allies in Big Tech to censor and deplatform the right/pro-white right.
Well, thanks for crushing my dreams today. No joke, though, I've thought about how that would look and you are 100% correct. The 2 ?s I have are these:
1. How are Republicans supposed to gain any power when the right to assemble is almost always spied upon and shut down, even for made up reasons?
2. What, exactly, can the average citizen do to advance the cultural and economic policies that are important to the Euro-western American ideal?
1. Have decent policies that voters want, energize the base, and help the base turn out. California and New York were two of the success stories in the 2022 midterms. If any state is going to go full Stasi on conservatives, it's California, yet the campaign and election there was free and fair. In these states, Republicans took advantage of the vote by mail rules and ended up winning a surprising number of races. In other states that are more friendly to them, they underperformed.
2. It's not a panacea but be normal, be as successful as you can in a respectable career and family lifestyle, and try to be someone to look up to. Things are getting very weird in this country and people are grasping out to find responsible, honest, admirable examples. It's a lot easier said than done and none of us is going to be perfect, but a lesson we must learn from the 2022 midterms is that being extremely online, extremely paranoid, and extremely "muh Biden is a radical Marxist" just turns off the vast majority of the country that doesn't really stress about this stuff.
Scott, I wrote this on another post but deleted it. I think you are one of the most realpolitik conservative thinkers out there. But it seems that a lot of your focus especially your guests are about political philosophy, commentary on events, or historical analysis. I think there is a wide gap and need for conservative populist policy analysis and ideas. There is a coalition of non radical whites, assimilated Hispanics and a marriage of mutual interest with asians that haven’t intermarried and assimilated already (also their birthrate is really low so if immigration was stopped it wouldn’t be an issue).
The fiscally libertarian and socially faux conservative (10 year lag liberal) isn’t working, other nations are using state power to strip industries from us and we are socially much more radical than any other western country (Sweden banned transing kids and doctors openly state transitioning will not help patient outcomes). Looking at Chris rufo and his work in education we need to encourage the 30% of America that is conservatives to work at disbanding, negating or shrinking hostile policy and institutions.
For instance:
- analysis: how did the growth of colleges and necessity for a middle class allow far left actors funding and social institutional authority over broader society. Solution: reduction by eliminating general ed (most radical classes for normal majors and waste of 1.5 years and tuition), allowing high school students to take lower division classes online (economics 101 doesn’t need a uni professor and elimination at hostile institutions would reduce societal influence, would also be cheaper so 70/30 issue). Disbanding: 22 states republicans have all three branches they can eliminate gender and ethnic studies and dei, (this is where the focus should have been the last 30 years than complaining about some celebrity clearly trying to get attention, most countries would never allow these majors to exist, gender and ethnic classes should at most be one classes added on to a history major...not a major in itself). Negating: creating value option for students to only pay for classes they take and rejecting usage of faculty or material not including the professor and the class room (cheaper college is 70/30 issue).
-analysis: 50% black births not in a cohabitating or married couple, these are the main people going to prison and anti American. Solution: provide free iuds to all residents in us over 16. (these are the main source of anti Americanism outside of far left whites, providing this would reduce population, reduce crime, reduce welfare and ballot harvesting demographics and would provide answer to poverty outside of “just get married”...just don’t have kids if you can’t afford them we are giving you free birth control). This would also negate the abortion issue and allow to stop losing so dramatically among women (a much larger and reachable voter base than getting 10% more of the black vote...it’s not happening and even if it does it’s not game changing, winning 50% of young white women or more is)
-pushing the narrative that low skilled immigrants don’t help the economy when the benefits they recieve is more than how much they provide in taxes. This is the main pushback besides faux humanitarian angle that is pushed. If people realized that their taxes are subsidizing big businesses cheap labor it would change the Overton window on the issue. This should be pushed forward with machines and temporary work visas (no birthright).
-analysis: pat Buchanan (and other paleo cons) have noted the rapid population growth of theirs world counties with no prospects in their own country due to self negligence causing the push factor on migration. Solution: the main reason for this was the combination of the lowering of infant mortality (around 50% by 15 100 years ago) and the lack of women’s education and birth control (shortening child bearing window). Diverting 50bn from the military budget providing IUDs and women’s education to low income countries would solve this issue ....most developing countries that have done this are already below replacement fertility as their economy is not strong enough for pronatalist policies.
This sort of analysis is very lacking and it can be pushed in ways that are 70/30 issues. This is much more productive and mainstream ideas for cons to rally around than these fake soulutions/ Christian copes/ dems are the real racists/ conservative reactionary entertainment complex. This also will prevent what will happen in 20-40 year if mass unskilled (mostly illiterate, linguistically segregated) immigration married to anti-white rhetoric as the rallying solution to their economic woes .... an America Chavez... it’s simple a large lower class hostile to the rest of society will use their political power to take the others economic and military power.
I may have replied to an earlier post of this. A lot of these ideas are good but I think at this point it's best to stick to basic principles. We want immigration curtailed, affirmative action eliminated, civil rights legislation rolled back, and true American national identity promoted. There are some specific policies to accomplish these things, but we can spell them out when candidates are running on our basic principles
Don’t you think we need to make these issues like halting immigration more palatable to reach a critical mass of support. Like if immigration is stopped and birth control prevents growth of an anti American underclass...acknowledgement of us as a distinct people will be much easier. Also finding ways to remove the economic incentive for mass immigration by pushing automation in agriculture and only temporary work visas.... For instance a 20 year immigration moratorium is much more palatable combined with charter cities in Central America and a limited amount of temporary workers with percent of pay held until they return home (possibly with a comp y sponsored bond).
Is there somewhere on this app I can direct message you? I feel that if you tweaked you social media to be more like monitoring bias your engagement would be higher
You make good points but I respectfully disagree on the free birth control. It is already very widely available to teens and adults (especially here in deep blue LA). A major problem is a culture that celebrates and gives positive social status to single mothers. I don't think they should be demonized, but society has gone too far and now, single mothers often have higher status than women who choose to wait until marriage to have kids. I know several women, with 3 or 4 kids, all different dads, never married. But convinced they are the victim. "Promises I Can Keep" is an excellent book to help understand what I'm describing.
You need to make birth control idiot proof. I get what you’re saying that these people have every option put before them and choose to not take the easy path, but in the end this falls on the responsible worse down the road. IUDs widely pushed in the teen years is the cheapest of any social program/birth control for this group. Look online and you’ll see people talk about reusing condoms, pull out methods, plastic bags for condoms etc and many dumb people don’t take the pill regularly and get pregnant.
This would stop the baby daddy issue. I know this issue can be unnecessary from the rights perspective, but we have to see it from these people getting pregnant...they simply don’t care enough until it’s too late and societies burden.
As a GenXer, yes more federalism. That's how we started under the Articles of Confederation. We had a confederate system BEFORE the Civil War. I don't fancy political figures other than Trump consistently, but MTG saying shit which amounted to throwing shit out there and thinking out loud is a good thing. The more the rhetoric the better the critical mass. I don't out much stock in 1 million twit accounts. Trump has been the only one that has done anything that amounts to being a baller. The rest are legends in their own mind.
But Scott does a great(!) job with his columns and pods. Just don't go the way of DeSantis! 🤣 By the way, heard from a left male gen X PhD poli sci professor in DC that Trump will be indicted for threatening and pushing Ben Raffensperger to find 11k votes in 2020 phone call (that leaked) and told Ben if not face an election loss in the next cycle. Professor said Trump’s statement is a criminal act. I am pissed how this man bashes Trump so much and R's, even MTG. This guy worked on the Hill and wonder if he knows something about the indictment. I pushed back in general about the shenanigans of the left, the 2020 election and the aftermath.
All this despite my life living in NYC and DC and probably will remain there. Rhetoric is good, we just have to educate our peeps from strata on where to go, but from chaos comes order.
I remember people calling up and discussing this subject on talk radio during the Rodney King riots. It was aired on the Bob Grant show and it was racial.
So true, Scott! The best thing the Dissident Right can do right now is slowly accumulate institutional power where possible and position ourselves to where we can as a legitimate alternative to the mainstream when things start to go seriously bad.
Good piece. For some reason, Scott’s writing voice is more refined than his podcast voice. Lots of strong writing recently (to the extent my opinion counts, which it may not).
That said, if a political movement isn’t strong enough to take over the GOP, it’s not strong enough to secede, so probably would-be seceders should start there.
One other point to make is that rightwingers aren’t actually locked out of power… I don’t know why anyone thinks this.
That is - they might be locked out of working in the Harvard admissions department, or Biden White House, but nothing stops rightwingers from being a VP at nvidia or Dell, nor are there material barriers to getting a job at the IRS or FBI, or your local governors office in a red state, etc
Folks need to… get real jobs. We are not actually remotely close to a point where there’s nothing that can be done.
Great piece. “National divorce” and “get out of cities” rhetoric serves the same function on the Right that doctrinaire libertarianism did 15 years ago. Proponents don’t want to admit (to themselves or others) that they hold (legitimately subversive) opinions—or how hard it would be to turn those opinions into policy. So they avoid doing so with supposedly edgy fantasies. Thanks for doing yeoman’s work on this front and encouraging people to focus on the real concerns of white middle and working class Americans
Absolutely correct on all points.
Well you tell us to vote harder and we do but it never changes anything. Republicans had all three branches of the federal government from 2000 to 2006 and did next to nothing. Tea Party groups were mercilessly harassed by Obama's IRS from 2010 to 2012 which prevented them from fundraising to elect candidates and campaign against Obama's re-election bid. We voted hard for Trump in 2016 and again had all three branches of govt until the 2018 midterms and all we got was tax cuts and the First Step Act. In fact, during the Trump administration the radical left rampaged through the institutions and persecuted right of center voters like never before all while Trump entertained Kim Kardashian in the oval office and tweeted.
Now the radical left is attempting to keep right wing Republicans off the ballot using lawfare tactics. But there's no point to winning elections when Republicans refuse to wield power on behalf of their voters.
Scott says the states won't leave because they need federal assistance but look at E. Palestine, OH and the lack of federal support for that disaster should tell you that we are entering an era where Democrat administrations will not assist red states. Biden admin refuses to lift a finger in helping border states turn back illegal aliens and massive amounts of deadly drugs. The federal government, at least under Democrats, is fast becoming illegitimate.
Of course there are a lot of practical problems with an immediate national divorce but most who desire it know that and don't expect it to happen overnight. But Scott is like the CIA agents in the 1980's who confidently predicted that the Soviet Union would endure for decades before it suddenly collapsed a few short years later.
The only people who feel this particular type of anger are a tiny minority. The vast majority of national divorce supporters don't want it to be racial. A separated Red America would just be like Red America today, except they would teach Martin Luther King was a Republican in schools. White identitarians can't even host rallies in the current system. There is no indication the system would allow them to have their own country, especially when they only number in the few thousands. You would want to secede from the divorced Red America if it came to be. But it won't be. Ordinary conservatives have no leverage to make the system allow us to separate. We're not rioting or doing anything to threaten the system. The system can handle grumbling on the internet.
The first step before doing anything is to gain a degree of power in the current structures. If you can't even manage that, you can't secede. Why would the system left us leave? What leverage do we have on them? People would laugh at furry communists demanding their own state, but people feel another fringe group making the same claim is a serious threat.
The Soviet Union could barely project power internally in the late 80s, much less externally. As Scott says, the USA is currently having Europe blow up its own energy infrastructure to earn good boy points with Uncle Sam.
The Republicans are far from perfect but the solution to an imperfect but real situation isn't to imagine an unrealistic one and just wish it to be true.
We know much about the late stages of the Soviet Union now but the CIA didn't know it then. We know now that communism had alienated so many people inside the Soviet Union that collapse was not a surprise. It's only a matter of time before the federal government alienates so many people in America that the same happens to us.
The USA isn't so strong. Rather, Europe and its leaders are so weak and willing to take orders.
What's the analog to this situation? The US intelligence community got the Russian invasion of Ukraine spot on, almost down to the day. They've managed to unite most of the population behind an expensive and potentially world-endangering role for the United States in defending Ukraine. They have, once again, persuaded Europe to dismantle its own energy infrastructure in order to weaken Russia and draw China into the conflict.
The alienation of the Soviet citizenry was not the core cause of the USSR's collapse, but even if it was, we're actually in a worse position to have that happen. The USSR first saw the Baltic republics effectively secede, and then Georgia: while these places had large Russian and Russophone populations, they were and are majority of their own ethnic groups. That is, Estonia has Estonians, Latvia Latvians, and so on. In the US, there is no pre-existing geographic area that can possibly be compared. Even if we have fever dreams of the federal response to East Palestine having some kind of galvanizing effect on the disaffected Middle Americans, the Middle Americans live in a far more integrated society than the Soviets did and cannot count on the support of their immediate neighbors. Also, the US infrastructure is far more centralized than that of the Soviets: if by some miracle you managed to get (for example) the Ohio River communities united in their rejection of Uncle Sam, well, that's great, but even Pittsburgh would balk at it. So you have a tiny rump state, some kind of NASCAR bantustan, despised by everything around it, with no institutional support, and (unlike the breakaway Soviet republics, who had the entire West waiting for them with open arms) no foreign support either.
It's just not going to happen. You need to reconcile yourself to the fact that it's not going to happen.
As a cheerleader for the U.S. intelligence community how do you know they got the invasion down to the day? Firstly, the Russians telegraphed their intentions and deliberately so, and all the media said was that an attacks was imminent "any day" which they repeated for at least two weeks until the invasion actually occurred.
Most of the the Russian speaking populations in the Baltic states were placed there as colonists I believe by Stalin and this was always a source of ethnic tension in those states. Ethnic tension was another Achilles heel of the Soviet Union just as racial tension and animosity is a big unresolved problem in the disunited States of America.
The point about federal assistance is that Scott claimed that the states are too reliant on the feds for disaster assistance which is true but in the case of E. Palestine, OH, and border states we have an increasing number of cases where Democrat admins will only assist states contingent on their pro-Democrat/left wing politics. If this trend continues then it will begin alienating some states from the federal govt and weaken Scott's argument. In the case of E. Palestine it looks like the Biden people see the bad optics and are reversing themselves but a bad precedent has been set.
Regarding your snide remarks about a NASCAR bantustan who on the right is suggesting such a thing other than you? People are simply asking if it's worth it to remain together when our disagreements are so fundamental and deepening by the month and because the right has virtually no political representation. And to that you and Scott have combusted into balls of flame. I think most people who support national divorce realize there are many practical problems with effecting that at the present time but things can change rapidly.
You especially look silly when it was the radical left who first violently attempted small scale secession in Seattle in the summer of 2020 with their CHOP/CHAZ zone where it was filled with violence, degeneracy, public defecation and other types of animalistic behavior. The leftist media applauded this move. I'll take NASCAR bantustan over that any day.
Cheerleader implies that I like what's happening: I don't. I'd rather we were not involved. But looking at this unbiasedly, the US Empire is the big winner here. They got their Intel right - their own narrative is that theirs was right and Ukraine was caught flat-footed. I don't know if that second part is true, or if that was to help justify our aid to them. Russia's telegraphing is very clear in retrospect but absent US ground imagery, a lot of people got it wrong.
The point about the Russian question in the post-Soviet states isn't completely irrelevant, but two key points here: first, even places like Estonia, which are very anti-Moscow politically, have large and peaceful Russian populations. The amount of tension there is far lower than in Ukraine. Second, the US is far more integrated - politically, racially, socially - and outside some dead rural areas any kind of ethnic or political insurrection is far more likely to fight for the Empire than against it.
I'm not suggesting a NASCAR bantustan: I'm saying it's the only thing possible. You say so yourself - when the Left declared autonomy, the Empire let them and the media fawned over them and called it a Summer of Love as kids were gunned down in the streets. All the institutional support goes on one direction, and you *cannot* have an independence movement without institutional support. This is particularly true when it's a brother-against-brother conflict (as this would be) at a time when the population's material needs are completely met.
You're mistaking my describing for endorsing. I think the federal bureaucracy is out of control and I think our militarism is dangerous for the world and bad for Americans. But being powerlessly mad about this online, and mistaking this for a grassroots desire for separation in the first place - much less its feasibility - is just LARPing.
When I ask how the right gets institutional support I get no answer from Greer or anyone else. I doubt you can tell me either other than to vote harder next time. I hate to break it to you but there will be no long right wing march through the institutions because demographically we (whites) just don't have time. Left wing Jews control the media and they don't allow upstart non-Jews into their media Cosa nostra.
That's why however fanciful people are talking national divorce because in new breakaway republics the right would control the media and all the new institutions.
The left tells the right, especially right of center whites, that they hate us and that we are the problem with America. Ok then, let us go our own way. But when we say that they shriek like banshees, change their tune to universalism or lecture us about treason and the last time this was tried. It's time they make up their effing minds.
The left isn't afraid to think and dream big no matter how asinine the idea. At one time gay marriage and reparations would never happen and were too radical yet here we are and with drag queen story hours to boot! They forced these things into the public discourse and consciousness. There were no left wing Scott Greers telling them that they were insane and it would fracture the country and was just plain not possible.
But in the age of the internet you don't necessarily need media control and institutional power to spread ideas which is why the left is now clamoring for "hate speech" laws and were/are using their corrupt allies in Big Tech to censor and deplatform the right/pro-white right.
That Seattle incident was the one red pilling moment in 2020, too bad they had to eventually clean up that pit.
James Burnham’s Managerial Revolution, but all the managers take the Greerhead pledge.
Not a national divorce, but federalism is the answer. Why try to force Californians to live like people in Tennessee and vice versa?
Well, thanks for crushing my dreams today. No joke, though, I've thought about how that would look and you are 100% correct. The 2 ?s I have are these:
1. How are Republicans supposed to gain any power when the right to assemble is almost always spied upon and shut down, even for made up reasons?
2. What, exactly, can the average citizen do to advance the cultural and economic policies that are important to the Euro-western American ideal?
1. Have decent policies that voters want, energize the base, and help the base turn out. California and New York were two of the success stories in the 2022 midterms. If any state is going to go full Stasi on conservatives, it's California, yet the campaign and election there was free and fair. In these states, Republicans took advantage of the vote by mail rules and ended up winning a surprising number of races. In other states that are more friendly to them, they underperformed.
2. It's not a panacea but be normal, be as successful as you can in a respectable career and family lifestyle, and try to be someone to look up to. Things are getting very weird in this country and people are grasping out to find responsible, honest, admirable examples. It's a lot easier said than done and none of us is going to be perfect, but a lesson we must learn from the 2022 midterms is that being extremely online, extremely paranoid, and extremely "muh Biden is a radical Marxist" just turns off the vast majority of the country that doesn't really stress about this stuff.
Scott, I wrote this on another post but deleted it. I think you are one of the most realpolitik conservative thinkers out there. But it seems that a lot of your focus especially your guests are about political philosophy, commentary on events, or historical analysis. I think there is a wide gap and need for conservative populist policy analysis and ideas. There is a coalition of non radical whites, assimilated Hispanics and a marriage of mutual interest with asians that haven’t intermarried and assimilated already (also their birthrate is really low so if immigration was stopped it wouldn’t be an issue).
The fiscally libertarian and socially faux conservative (10 year lag liberal) isn’t working, other nations are using state power to strip industries from us and we are socially much more radical than any other western country (Sweden banned transing kids and doctors openly state transitioning will not help patient outcomes). Looking at Chris rufo and his work in education we need to encourage the 30% of America that is conservatives to work at disbanding, negating or shrinking hostile policy and institutions.
For instance:
- analysis: how did the growth of colleges and necessity for a middle class allow far left actors funding and social institutional authority over broader society. Solution: reduction by eliminating general ed (most radical classes for normal majors and waste of 1.5 years and tuition), allowing high school students to take lower division classes online (economics 101 doesn’t need a uni professor and elimination at hostile institutions would reduce societal influence, would also be cheaper so 70/30 issue). Disbanding: 22 states republicans have all three branches they can eliminate gender and ethnic studies and dei, (this is where the focus should have been the last 30 years than complaining about some celebrity clearly trying to get attention, most countries would never allow these majors to exist, gender and ethnic classes should at most be one classes added on to a history major...not a major in itself). Negating: creating value option for students to only pay for classes they take and rejecting usage of faculty or material not including the professor and the class room (cheaper college is 70/30 issue).
-analysis: 50% black births not in a cohabitating or married couple, these are the main people going to prison and anti American. Solution: provide free iuds to all residents in us over 16. (these are the main source of anti Americanism outside of far left whites, providing this would reduce population, reduce crime, reduce welfare and ballot harvesting demographics and would provide answer to poverty outside of “just get married”...just don’t have kids if you can’t afford them we are giving you free birth control). This would also negate the abortion issue and allow to stop losing so dramatically among women (a much larger and reachable voter base than getting 10% more of the black vote...it’s not happening and even if it does it’s not game changing, winning 50% of young white women or more is)
-pushing the narrative that low skilled immigrants don’t help the economy when the benefits they recieve is more than how much they provide in taxes. This is the main pushback besides faux humanitarian angle that is pushed. If people realized that their taxes are subsidizing big businesses cheap labor it would change the Overton window on the issue. This should be pushed forward with machines and temporary work visas (no birthright).
-analysis: pat Buchanan (and other paleo cons) have noted the rapid population growth of theirs world counties with no prospects in their own country due to self negligence causing the push factor on migration. Solution: the main reason for this was the combination of the lowering of infant mortality (around 50% by 15 100 years ago) and the lack of women’s education and birth control (shortening child bearing window). Diverting 50bn from the military budget providing IUDs and women’s education to low income countries would solve this issue ....most developing countries that have done this are already below replacement fertility as their economy is not strong enough for pronatalist policies.
This sort of analysis is very lacking and it can be pushed in ways that are 70/30 issues. This is much more productive and mainstream ideas for cons to rally around than these fake soulutions/ Christian copes/ dems are the real racists/ conservative reactionary entertainment complex. This also will prevent what will happen in 20-40 year if mass unskilled (mostly illiterate, linguistically segregated) immigration married to anti-white rhetoric as the rallying solution to their economic woes .... an America Chavez... it’s simple a large lower class hostile to the rest of society will use their political power to take the others economic and military power.
I may have replied to an earlier post of this. A lot of these ideas are good but I think at this point it's best to stick to basic principles. We want immigration curtailed, affirmative action eliminated, civil rights legislation rolled back, and true American national identity promoted. There are some specific policies to accomplish these things, but we can spell them out when candidates are running on our basic principles
Don’t you think we need to make these issues like halting immigration more palatable to reach a critical mass of support. Like if immigration is stopped and birth control prevents growth of an anti American underclass...acknowledgement of us as a distinct people will be much easier. Also finding ways to remove the economic incentive for mass immigration by pushing automation in agriculture and only temporary work visas.... For instance a 20 year immigration moratorium is much more palatable combined with charter cities in Central America and a limited amount of temporary workers with percent of pay held until they return home (possibly with a comp y sponsored bond).
Is there somewhere on this app I can direct message you? I feel that if you tweaked you social media to be more like monitoring bias your engagement would be higher
"assimilated Hispanics"
No, not interested.
You make good points but I respectfully disagree on the free birth control. It is already very widely available to teens and adults (especially here in deep blue LA). A major problem is a culture that celebrates and gives positive social status to single mothers. I don't think they should be demonized, but society has gone too far and now, single mothers often have higher status than women who choose to wait until marriage to have kids. I know several women, with 3 or 4 kids, all different dads, never married. But convinced they are the victim. "Promises I Can Keep" is an excellent book to help understand what I'm describing.
You need to make birth control idiot proof. I get what you’re saying that these people have every option put before them and choose to not take the easy path, but in the end this falls on the responsible worse down the road. IUDs widely pushed in the teen years is the cheapest of any social program/birth control for this group. Look online and you’ll see people talk about reusing condoms, pull out methods, plastic bags for condoms etc and many dumb people don’t take the pill regularly and get pregnant.
This would stop the baby daddy issue. I know this issue can be unnecessary from the rights perspective, but we have to see it from these people getting pregnant...they simply don’t care enough until it’s too late and societies burden.
As a GenXer, yes more federalism. That's how we started under the Articles of Confederation. We had a confederate system BEFORE the Civil War. I don't fancy political figures other than Trump consistently, but MTG saying shit which amounted to throwing shit out there and thinking out loud is a good thing. The more the rhetoric the better the critical mass. I don't out much stock in 1 million twit accounts. Trump has been the only one that has done anything that amounts to being a baller. The rest are legends in their own mind.
But Scott does a great(!) job with his columns and pods. Just don't go the way of DeSantis! 🤣 By the way, heard from a left male gen X PhD poli sci professor in DC that Trump will be indicted for threatening and pushing Ben Raffensperger to find 11k votes in 2020 phone call (that leaked) and told Ben if not face an election loss in the next cycle. Professor said Trump’s statement is a criminal act. I am pissed how this man bashes Trump so much and R's, even MTG. This guy worked on the Hill and wonder if he knows something about the indictment. I pushed back in general about the shenanigans of the left, the 2020 election and the aftermath.
"I don't put much stock into 1 million follower twit accounts".
All this despite my life living in NYC and DC and probably will remain there. Rhetoric is good, we just have to educate our peeps from strata on where to go, but from chaos comes order.
Dave49 and Always AdBlock, both you guys are seriously based. Feel like I'm in a tennis match.
I remember people calling up and discussing this subject on talk radio during the Rodney King riots. It was aired on the Bob Grant show and it was racial.
Things get a little bit tough and these women start clamoring for a divorce!
So true, Scott! The best thing the Dissident Right can do right now is slowly accumulate institutional power where possible and position ourselves to where we can as a legitimate alternative to the mainstream when things start to go seriously bad.
Good piece. For some reason, Scott’s writing voice is more refined than his podcast voice. Lots of strong writing recently (to the extent my opinion counts, which it may not).
That said, if a political movement isn’t strong enough to take over the GOP, it’s not strong enough to secede, so probably would-be seceders should start there.
One other point to make is that rightwingers aren’t actually locked out of power… I don’t know why anyone thinks this.
That is - they might be locked out of working in the Harvard admissions department, or Biden White House, but nothing stops rightwingers from being a VP at nvidia or Dell, nor are there material barriers to getting a job at the IRS or FBI, or your local governors office in a red state, etc
Folks need to… get real jobs. We are not actually remotely close to a point where there’s nothing that can be done.