You all need to look at the data...Hispanics are polling 50% trump despite all the shit he’s said and promising mass deportations...many Hispanics see it in their interests not to turn the USA into a shithole.
Yes if mass immigration occurs in one location a parallel society forms and they become a voting block.
I’m white and in California...the most mass immigration place...many many Hispanics wearing blue lives matters shirts etc
Yes the new illegal ones need to go, they clearly are a underclass voting block and the research shows it will take 3-4 generations to assimilate and to earn as much as a white person.
You guys don’t get that these other groups aren’t like blacks in that they aren’t as hostile and commit far less crime. Even if they don’t fully assimilate it is more like a parallel society rather than a hostile underclass.
I do think in the near term you are right Scott, but in the long term if Whites dip down to 40 percent James Kirkpatrick's view will have to be tried. Alabama and Mississippi Whites come the closest the cohesive identity you speak of. 2004 Presidential Election Alabama was racially divided: Alabama Whites voted 80%–19% for Bush while Blacks voted 91%-9% for Kerry. Mississippi 2004 In 2004, 14% of white Mississippians voted for John Kerry and 10% of African Americans voted for Bush.
Under age 30 No, in total maybe right at that? 57 percent was the 2020 census, and now we have been flooded. I do wonder what the percentage is now. I hate how complacent we are given this fact.
Also why do none of these guys you mentioned notice how Hispanics are 70% white Western European Christians and that they love Trumps nationalism and voted in much higher numbers...they appear to be assimilating into ethic Americans (white Anglo mulattos) just like Italians
I have lived and worked in several areas that are now Mexican majorities. They are not "assimilating" on any level. They create disproportionate crime, welfare, children out of wedlock, block voting, nepotism, and carry a collective IQ that is just 2 pts higher than the American black. They are largely a cheap labor caste, but when they get numbers, your city will look very similar to the one in Mexico they came from in time. It is amazing how powerful just a small % of whites in a city can keep it from going full blown third world in these growing enclaves. To compare a Mexican, Central or South American to an Irishman, Italian, etc is absurd. Even after decades of open border, globalist policies, Mexico is still an unlivable dump. Even after we have taken over 50m of their least productive / desirable mestizos off their hands.
I feel like Tejanos and CA Mexicans are a little different. The Cubans, Tejanos, and some other Hispanics do assimilate and are similar to Italians and other old school immigrants. But the new crop of illegals and Central Americans are hopeless and much more similar to blacks.
So like with most ethnic whites, particularly ones under 50, they have no “ethnic white” identity anymore and don’t consider themselves vastly different from traditional America. They might flaunt non-Anglo ancestry but that’s it.
So to me, it’s more than just speaking English or doing well. It’s respecting traditional America and seeing yourself as a part of it, and abandoning old ethnic ties aside from the occasional larp.
Some immigrants do this eventually and a few do so very quickly, but of course, many others don’t at all.
It’s interesting his analysis of Latinos “becoming” white...by third generation 60% identify as white. I think if we also frame immigration limits in terms of the rate of integration it’s a strong stance alongside economic concerns of natives.
I mean it depends. A lot of old school Mexicans and Cubans/South Americans are assimilating and are generally not that bad. The new crop of illegals and many central Americans/South Mexicans are not good at all. Not to mention the Reaggeton types.
You all need to look at the data...Hispanics are polling 50% trump despite all the shit he’s said and promising mass deportations...many Hispanics see it in their interests not to turn the USA into a shithole.
Yes if mass immigration occurs in one location a parallel society forms and they become a voting block.
I’m white and in California...the most mass immigration place...many many Hispanics wearing blue lives matters shirts etc
Yes the new illegal ones need to go, they clearly are a underclass voting block and the research shows it will take 3-4 generations to assimilate and to earn as much as a white person.
You guys don’t get that these other groups aren’t like blacks in that they aren’t as hostile and commit far less crime. Even if they don’t fully assimilate it is more like a parallel society rather than a hostile underclass.
I do think in the near term you are right Scott, but in the long term if Whites dip down to 40 percent James Kirkpatrick's view will have to be tried. Alabama and Mississippi Whites come the closest the cohesive identity you speak of. 2004 Presidential Election Alabama was racially divided: Alabama Whites voted 80%–19% for Bush while Blacks voted 91%-9% for Kerry. Mississippi 2004 In 2004, 14% of white Mississippians voted for John Kerry and 10% of African Americans voted for Bush.
Do you believe whites are still over 50% of the population?
Under age 30 No, in total maybe right at that? 57 percent was the 2020 census, and now we have been flooded. I do wonder what the percentage is now. I hate how complacent we are given this fact.
Trump’s mass deportations are going to have to be extensive. And I believe they will happen.
Also why do none of these guys you mentioned notice how Hispanics are 70% white Western European Christians and that they love Trumps nationalism and voted in much higher numbers...they appear to be assimilating into ethic Americans (white Anglo mulattos) just like Italians
I have lived and worked in several areas that are now Mexican majorities. They are not "assimilating" on any level. They create disproportionate crime, welfare, children out of wedlock, block voting, nepotism, and carry a collective IQ that is just 2 pts higher than the American black. They are largely a cheap labor caste, but when they get numbers, your city will look very similar to the one in Mexico they came from in time. It is amazing how powerful just a small % of whites in a city can keep it from going full blown third world in these growing enclaves. To compare a Mexican, Central or South American to an Irishman, Italian, etc is absurd. Even after decades of open border, globalist policies, Mexico is still an unlivable dump. Even after we have taken over 50m of their least productive / desirable mestizos off their hands.
I feel like Tejanos and CA Mexicans are a little different. The Cubans, Tejanos, and some other Hispanics do assimilate and are similar to Italians and other old school immigrants. But the new crop of illegals and Central Americans are hopeless and much more similar to blacks.
Are you Mexican, Cuban, or Tejanos yourself in any part?
I’m not, but I’ve lived in TX and visited SoFlo. As well as SoCal and much of the West.
I see. What is your definition of "assimilation?"
So like with most ethnic whites, particularly ones under 50, they have no “ethnic white” identity anymore and don’t consider themselves vastly different from traditional America. They might flaunt non-Anglo ancestry but that’s it.
So to me, it’s more than just speaking English or doing well. It’s respecting traditional America and seeing yourself as a part of it, and abandoning old ethnic ties aside from the occasional larp.
Some immigrants do this eventually and a few do so very quickly, but of course, many others don’t at all.
What are your thoughts on Eric kaufmann?
It’s interesting his analysis of Latinos “becoming” white...by third generation 60% identify as white. I think if we also frame immigration limits in terms of the rate of integration it’s a strong stance alongside economic concerns of natives.
I mean it depends. A lot of old school Mexicans and Cubans/South Americans are assimilating and are generally not that bad. The new crop of illegals and many central Americans/South Mexicans are not good at all. Not to mention the Reaggeton types.