Europeans too will start to recognize their common white culture as the presence of The Other becomes more apparent in their own societies. Just as Tony from New Jersey and Hunter in Alabama realize they’ve got a helluva lot in common when Jamal shows up, so too will Edward in England and Théo in France when Jugmeet the Punjabi makes his presence felt.
White culture keeps pants around waist..doesn't use foul language in front of parents and kids..doesn't burn loot murder..no smash and grab..doesn't racially slur in public..etc etc etc..all this is opposite of blackkk
It’s a tricky question that’s impossible to answer in a few sentences. I know I’d slip into circular reasoning (“white culture is the beliefs, experiences, preferences, and practices that white people tend to share…”) or negative reasoning (“white culture is a non-minority, non-ethnic, non-communal, open and tolerant condition of life…”). I would hope that guys like Carl could do better than this, but he really didn’t. It’s a total gotcha question though. Most American whites aren’t really allowed to have a distinct culture, so it’s always a muddle explaining what defines us. That still doesn’t protect us from being discriminated against , which is what’s really being denied here.
You completely explained this political/racial quagmire, I don’t know what else to say. White history (facts) in America will never be accepted by the others.
We have been over this White just means European it is a pan European identity Recently Jeremy Carl that one guy Trump tried to get in who was supposed to pander to us and be "based".
/b/ circa 2015 called — they want their talking points back. He couldn’t even define white identity or how it is being attacked. When asked at the confirmation hearing (I hate transcribing audio, but I am a crowd pleaser, so I will do it for you), he said: “certain types of Anglo-derived culture that comes from our history.”
Anglo? What the fuck is this bullshit? Who actually thinks this besides the guy who talks politics at the barbershop? The “white” category includes people from Peru and Afghanistan — it actually always has (though this is largely due to outdated assumptions in genetic models). I am a white person, and I am not Anglo — I am an Austro-Slav.
So when asked “like what,” Jeremy here responds: “Let me think about this — you know, Senator, if you were to look at the book Born Fighting, the sort of Scots-Irish military culture and the pride that went with that would be one example.”
First off, the Irish and Scots are not Anglo — really, barely — so maybe let’s start there. Also, are you saying no one else had military pride? I mentioned being Austrian — we fought the Thirty Years’ War for, well, thirty years, and it cost us something like 25% of our population.
Then he says: “You can have sub-elements of that culture — you can have Italians and Irish.” He is conceding this Noel Ignatiev ass framing.
Then: “So tell me the values that stitch together white identity.” Carl fell for an obvious trap. It isn’t about values — it’s not a club — it’s just genetics. What values stitch together your family? Are you family because you watch Die Hard every year at Christmas, or do you do that because you’re biologically related?
So when asked what makes it different from Black identity, he says: “I would say that the white church is very different than the Black church.” I am Catholic — or at least was raised as such. Catholicism is seen in America as quintessential European Christianity, but it’s also the most globally diverse denomination by far, with huge numbers of Black adherents, especially in Africa.
Then: “Foodways can often be different.” He’s bringing up church and food? Again, this is the issue with Trumpism trying to co-opt the language of white identity — they don’t want to commit to it and its very obvious illiberal implications. Because once you concede overarching binding racial identities like this, you have to start rejecting Locke’s conception of tabula rasa and Rousseau’s view of the state of nature, and so many Enlightenment assumptions people still cling to.
Then: “Music can be different.” So he brings up food, church, and music — my God, the normie boomer take is killing me.
I’ve watched Ibram X. Kendi lectures — they actually bothered me less than this. Despite the fact that, in theory, this is more aligned with how I see the world, I would rather listen to Kendi call me a racist than hear this fucking Jew shill try to pander to me.
Even his post hearing clarification was bad.
"The “White culture” then that I was referring to was simply the culture of the overwhelming majority of Americans who lived here prior to the passing of the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965, which radically transformed American demographics. It incorporated everything from the sports we played (football, baseball etc.) to the foods we ate (Hamburgers, Pizza etc.) to the music we listened to and the TV shows we watched."
Again he gives the chud talking point like "immigration act 65 !" but the substance is not there he is a plant here to allow the government to pretend it cares about it's White population and their concerns. Pizza and baseball are White culture ? Not a single non White person likes those guys.
“We still speak English, but many of the old norms and customs are discarded in favor of a more “inclusive” American identity. This will change America, and not in a good direction. This is what Carl and others warn about.”
In a podcast with Amy Wax, who lamented demographic change, Hanania admitted that the culture would change, but he didn’t say if it would be a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe you should elaborate why it will be a bad thing.
Europeans too will start to recognize their common white culture as the presence of The Other becomes more apparent in their own societies. Just as Tony from New Jersey and Hunter in Alabama realize they’ve got a helluva lot in common when Jamal shows up, so too will Edward in England and Théo in France when Jugmeet the Punjabi makes his presence felt.
American journalist Goldberg, what a surprise
White culture keeps pants around waist..doesn't use foul language in front of parents and kids..doesn't burn loot murder..no smash and grab..doesn't racially slur in public..etc etc etc..all this is opposite of blackkk
It’s a tricky question that’s impossible to answer in a few sentences. I know I’d slip into circular reasoning (“white culture is the beliefs, experiences, preferences, and practices that white people tend to share…”) or negative reasoning (“white culture is a non-minority, non-ethnic, non-communal, open and tolerant condition of life…”). I would hope that guys like Carl could do better than this, but he really didn’t. It’s a total gotcha question though. Most American whites aren’t really allowed to have a distinct culture, so it’s always a muddle explaining what defines us. That still doesn’t protect us from being discriminated against , which is what’s really being denied here.
You completely explained this political/racial quagmire, I don’t know what else to say. White history (facts) in America will never be accepted by the others.
We have been over this White just means European it is a pan European identity Recently Jeremy Carl that one guy Trump tried to get in who was supposed to pander to us and be "based".
/b/ circa 2015 called — they want their talking points back. He couldn’t even define white identity or how it is being attacked. When asked at the confirmation hearing (I hate transcribing audio, but I am a crowd pleaser, so I will do it for you), he said: “certain types of Anglo-derived culture that comes from our history.”
Anglo? What the fuck is this bullshit? Who actually thinks this besides the guy who talks politics at the barbershop? The “white” category includes people from Peru and Afghanistan — it actually always has (though this is largely due to outdated assumptions in genetic models). I am a white person, and I am not Anglo — I am an Austro-Slav.
So when asked “like what,” Jeremy here responds: “Let me think about this — you know, Senator, if you were to look at the book Born Fighting, the sort of Scots-Irish military culture and the pride that went with that would be one example.”
First off, the Irish and Scots are not Anglo — really, barely — so maybe let’s start there. Also, are you saying no one else had military pride? I mentioned being Austrian — we fought the Thirty Years’ War for, well, thirty years, and it cost us something like 25% of our population.
Then he says: “You can have sub-elements of that culture — you can have Italians and Irish.” He is conceding this Noel Ignatiev ass framing.
Then: “So tell me the values that stitch together white identity.” Carl fell for an obvious trap. It isn’t about values — it’s not a club — it’s just genetics. What values stitch together your family? Are you family because you watch Die Hard every year at Christmas, or do you do that because you’re biologically related?
So when asked what makes it different from Black identity, he says: “I would say that the white church is very different than the Black church.” I am Catholic — or at least was raised as such. Catholicism is seen in America as quintessential European Christianity, but it’s also the most globally diverse denomination by far, with huge numbers of Black adherents, especially in Africa.
Then: “Foodways can often be different.” He’s bringing up church and food? Again, this is the issue with Trumpism trying to co-opt the language of white identity — they don’t want to commit to it and its very obvious illiberal implications. Because once you concede overarching binding racial identities like this, you have to start rejecting Locke’s conception of tabula rasa and Rousseau’s view of the state of nature, and so many Enlightenment assumptions people still cling to.
Then: “Music can be different.” So he brings up food, church, and music — my God, the normie boomer take is killing me.
I’ve watched Ibram X. Kendi lectures — they actually bothered me less than this. Despite the fact that, in theory, this is more aligned with how I see the world, I would rather listen to Kendi call me a racist than hear this fucking Jew shill try to pander to me.
Even his post hearing clarification was bad.
"The “White culture” then that I was referring to was simply the culture of the overwhelming majority of Americans who lived here prior to the passing of the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965, which radically transformed American demographics. It incorporated everything from the sports we played (football, baseball etc.) to the foods we ate (Hamburgers, Pizza etc.) to the music we listened to and the TV shows we watched."
Again he gives the chud talking point like "immigration act 65 !" but the substance is not there he is a plant here to allow the government to pretend it cares about it's White population and their concerns. Pizza and baseball are White culture ? Not a single non White person likes those guys.
White culture is everything still standing in this country, the decay around us is the cultural rot. We built this. Easy.
chadbad's buildings are still standing and look pretty nice, is that White culture ?
Obviously no, again we need a tangible taxonomy not just shitty /pol/ quotes
“We still speak English, but many of the old norms and customs are discarded in favor of a more “inclusive” American identity. This will change America, and not in a good direction. This is what Carl and others warn about.”
In a podcast with Amy Wax, who lamented demographic change, Hanania admitted that the culture would change, but he didn’t say if it would be a good thing or a bad thing. Maybe you should elaborate why it will be a bad thing.